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Message 1616040 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 1:42:05 UTC

PC Matic has been advertising heavily on TV lately. They've even stated that they've rated higher than Kaspersky.

We've been a Kasperky family for several years, since leaving the Symantec world. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of PC Matic? Is it BOINC friendly??? I just got through playing around with COMODO Internet Security on Exeter; my XP Pro x64 system with BOINC. CIS is NOT BOINC friendly; even after setting exceptions to NOT scan the BOINC Project Folders, and BOINC itself.

I'm highly interested in PC Matic; because, they are now offering a Lifetime Contract on 5 PCs for $150.00 flat. (Another $13 if you want a CD with the software on it.) (Also has a money back guarantee within 30 days.)


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Message 1616046 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 2:25:39 UTC
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Does this company give the source that ranks them higher?
Personally I've never even heard of that software. I don't seem to find it on any AV software comparison lists either.
Generally TV ads for antivirus/malware I put in the same classification as pop-up ads. Not worth my time.

I find it is best to check several sources for something & if the product being evaluated is consistently ranked positively. Then it is probably safe to believe them..

As a general rule. Anything that advertises "AS SEEN ON TV" is probably not worth your time.
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Message 1616054 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 3:30:08 UTC - in response to Message 1616040.  

CIS runs fine here on several systems with BOINC/SETI.
I would not touch PC Matic with a 10 foot poll :-)
Do a google search on the problems and complaints.
Kaspersky is pretty good.
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Message 1616067 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 4:29:53 UTC

I'm using Microsoft Essentials. No Seti problems. No virus or other problems. And it is a free download.

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Message 1616083 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 6:14:11 UTC

I gave AVG free the flick with their associated stupid crapware so I've been using Microsoft Security Essentials on clients PC's here for the last 2yrs now without any problems (and now on my own).

I've just had 2 PC's here this week which havn't changed my mind on Norton's crapware either pretty much crippling PC's for now other reason than they want more $'s out of people.

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Message 1616087 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 6:21:46 UTC - in response to Message 1616083.  

I gave up on Norton's after they told a few years ago that MacIntosh was a dead OS and they weren't going to support them anymore..

Bet they wish they could take back that statement and restart that mac division.
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Message 1616104 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 7:01:05 UTC

From what I just read, I class PC Matic as a virus!
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Message 1616131 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 7:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 1616067.  
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I'm using Microsoft Essentials. No Seti problems. No virus or other problems. And it is a free download.

I also use Microsoft Essentials and malawarebytes. No problems with Seti or any other program.
I used to use AVG. But they have so much garbage in the way before you can even find the free version I gave up on them. Same as I dont use Cnet. They download to much hidden garbage.
edit- I dont use Cnet to find any program that is.
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Message 1616293 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 15:25:45 UTC

I've used PC Matic's Super Shield since it came online and have had no problems with it. Super Shield uses a combination of universally acknowledged black lists along with the same acknowledged white lists. Depending on the settings that you specify, you create your own local white list on your machine, that includes programs running on you machine, such as SETI, BOINC, & Lunatics. I've found it to be superior to AVG, Total Defense, Kasperky, and especially Norton as they give me too many false negatives. I've use Computer Assocs. internet software for years, but became unsatisfied with them in recent times and switched. PC Matic is currently negotiating with Microsoft to be a recognized vendor, and I'm not sure what the status of that is at the moment. What I like about Super Shield is the combination of both white & black lists and their database is constantly growing. I do not use the default settings of the product, which allows me to add to my local white list the first time that a program, not on their white list to operate. Which is most useful when testing/running BOINC applications.

PLEASE NOTE - If you use the default setting, every program associated with BOINC will be denied. Not because they are viruses, but for the fact that they are not on the massive recognized white list. Using the advanced settings will allow them to run.

Customer service is pretty quick and almost all question are answered via their forums. If there is a specific problem/bug that is reported, it is usually fixed quickly. Most of the problems that I see on these forums are just users getting to know the product and needing assistance.


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Message 1616331 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 16:56:40 UTC - in response to Message 1616293.  

I've used PC Matic's Super Shield since it came online and have had no problems with it. Super Shield uses a combination of universally acknowledged black lists along with the same acknowledged white lists. Depending on the settings that you specify, you create your own local white list on your machine, that includes programs running on you machine, such as SETI, BOINC, & Lunatics. I've found it to be superior to AVG, Total Defense, Kasperky, and especially Norton as they give me too many false negatives. I've use Computer Assocs. internet software for years, but became unsatisfied with them in recent times and switched. PC Matic is currently negotiating with Microsoft to be a recognized vendor, and I'm not sure what the status of that is at the moment. What I like about Super Shield is the combination of both white & black lists and their database is constantly growing. I do not use the default settings of the product, which allows me to add to my local white list the first time that a program, not on their white list to operate. Which is most useful when testing/running BOINC applications.

PLEASE NOTE - If you use the default setting, every program associated with BOINC will be denied. Not because they are viruses, but for the fact that they are not on the massive recognized white list. Using the advanced settings will allow them to run.

Customer service is pretty quick and almost all question are answered via their forums. If there is a specific problem/bug that is reported, it is usually fixed quickly. Most of the problems that I see on these forums are just users getting to know the product and needing assistance.

I use it on remote machines belonging to my father, and brother in law. I use it on my laptop, but found the problem with Super Shield very quickly. It is very good software, but you do need to change those default settings. I didn't, and my laptop dumped all it's work units.

The two computer I mentioned other than my laptop, are owned by people completely computer illiterate, and for once I have not had to log in remotely and fix things since I installed it. PC-Matic is excellent software!

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Message 1616391 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 19:02:37 UTC - in response to Message 1616293.  

I've used PC Matic's Super Shield since it came online and have had no problems with it. ...I do not use the default settings of the product, which allows me to add to my local white list the first time that a program, not on their white list to operate. Which is most useful when testing/running BOINC applications.

PLEASE NOTE - If you use the default setting, every program associated with BOINC will be denied. Not because they are viruses, but for the fact that they are not on the massive recognized white list. Using the advanced settings will allow them to run.

Customer service is pretty quick and almost all question are answered via their forums. If there is a specific problem/bug that is reported, it is usually fixed quickly. Most of the problems that I see on these forums are just users getting to know the product and needing assistance.


How do I create the Whitelist to exclude scanning BOINC and BOINC Projects' Folders??? I've been trying; but have been unsuccessful. I don't seem to be able to get around as easily as I did with Kaspersky... I'm sure this will change in time.


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Message 1616438 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 21:18:56 UTC - in response to Message 1616391.  

I've used PC Matic's Super Shield since it came online and have had no problems with it. ...I do not use the default settings of the product, which allows me to add to my local white list the first time that a program, not on their white list to operate. Which is most useful when testing/running BOINC applications.

PLEASE NOTE - If you use the default setting, every program associated with BOINC will be denied. Not because they are viruses, but for the fact that they are not on the massive recognized white list. Using the advanced settings will allow them to run.

Customer service is pretty quick and almost all question are answered via their forums. If there is a specific problem/bug that is reported, it is usually fixed quickly. Most of the problems that I see on these forums are just users getting to know the product and needing assistance.


How do I create the Whitelist to exclude scanning BOINC and BOINC Projects' Folders??? I've been trying; but have been unsuccessful. I don't seem to be able to get around as easily as I did with Kaspersky... I'm sure this will change in time.


Thanks,


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1) Right click the icon and do the following under Protection Level:
a. Check Super Shield protection.
b. Under Block Notification Method - Prompt for override.

This override is what populates the local white list. The first time a program runs that Super Shield does not recognize, a popup will show what the program is and from where it is running. click on the far right RED button. Keep a close eye when attaching a new project or allow new apps to run on your current projects. Super Shield will deny access until you reply to the popup message. If a new type of work unit is started, say overnight, you may lose some until you respond. You will be able to see your white list by right clicking on the icon, go down to the White & Black lists and click the White list.

Since all of the viruses that I've seen or heard of are in executable form, I don't need to worry about scanning the BOINC & project folders. There is a white paper on PC Matic on their web site if your interested.


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Message 1616444 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 21:44:45 UTC - in response to Message 1616438.  

I've used PC Matic's Super Shield since it came online and have had no problems with it. ...I do not use the default settings of the product, which allows me to add to my local white list the first time that a program, not on their white list to operate. Which is most useful when testing/running BOINC applications.

PLEASE NOTE - If you use the default setting, every program associated with BOINC will be denied. Not because they are viruses, but for the fact that they are not on the massive recognized white list. Using the advanced settings will allow them to run.

Customer service is pretty quick and almost all question are answered via their forums. If there is a specific problem/bug that is reported, it is usually fixed quickly. Most of the problems that I see on these forums are just users getting to know the product and needing assistance.


How do I create the Whitelist to exclude scanning BOINC and BOINC Projects' Folders??? I've been trying; but have been unsuccessful. I don't seem to be able to get around as easily as I did with Kaspersky... I'm sure this will change in time.


Thanks,


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1) Right click the icon and do the following under Protection Level:
a. Check Super Shield protection.
b. Under Block Notification Method - Prompt for override.

This override is what populates the local white list. The first time a program runs that Super Shield does not recognize, a popup will show what the program is and from where it is running. click on the far right RED button. Keep a close eye when attaching a new project or allow new apps to run on your current projects. Super Shield will deny access until you reply to the popup message. If a new type of work unit is started, say overnight, you may lose some until you respond. You will be able to see your white list by right clicking on the icon, go down to the White & Black lists and click the White list.

Since all of the viruses that I've seen or heard of are in executable form, I don't need to worry about scanning the BOINC & project folders. There is a white paper on PC Matic on their web site if your interested.


After being on "Automatic" for everything; and seeing a popup warning about "Lunatics", I did manage to do as you suggested. However; because I made that change after seeing the flag; it had already marked the item and highlighted it in yellow. (Some kind of general warning; but, it didn't seem to block the WUs from running. BOINC, SETI@Home, and Lunatics have been running flawlessly under PC Matic for over 24 Hours now.) I still couldn't get the Whitelist created; however, BOINC seems to be running OK. (Every time I check the Whitelist, it is blank, no entries.) NO further warnings or attempted blocks of Lunatics has occurred...


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Message 1616545 - Posted: 20 Dec 2014, 4:01:26 UTC

After being on "Automatic" for everything; and seeing a popup warning about "Lunatics", I did manage to do as you suggested. However; because I made that change after seeing the flag; it had already marked the item and highlighted it in yellow. (Some kind of general warning; but, it didn't seem to block the WUs from running. BOINC, SETI@Home, and Lunatics have been running flawlessly under PC Matic for over 24 Hours now.) I still couldn't get the Whitelist created; however, BOINC seems to be running OK. (Every time I check the Whitelist, it is blank, no entries.) NO further warnings or attempted blocks of Lunatics has occurred...


If I remember correctly, any program that was installed on your system will run without further action. It's only the new programs that will trigger the popup. If you pressed the correct button (far right RED, then you shouldn't any further problem with it. When you pressed that button, it was automatically inserted into the local white list.


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Message 1616547 - Posted: 20 Dec 2014, 4:10:47 UTC - in response to Message 1616545.  

After being on "Automatic" for everything; and seeing a popup warning about "Lunatics", I did manage to do as you suggested. However; because I made that change after seeing the flag; it had already marked the item and highlighted it in yellow. (Some kind of general warning; but, it didn't seem to block the WUs from running. BOINC, SETI@Home, and Lunatics have been running flawlessly under PC Matic for over 24 Hours now.) I still couldn't get the Whitelist created; however, BOINC seems to be running OK. (Every time I check the Whitelist, it is blank, no entries.) NO further warnings or attempted blocks of Lunatics has occurred...


If I remember correctly, any program that was installed on your system will run without further action. It's only the new programs that will trigger the popup. If you pressed the correct button (far right RED, then you shouldn't any further problem with it. When you pressed that button, it was automatically inserted into the local white list.


There was no "Red" anything; and my Whitelist is still blank and empty... But, as stated, even though there was one popup warning about Lunatics BOINC, and SETI@Home seem to be running fine... If something had been automatically entered into the Whitelist; then why would the Whitelist be blank and empty??? Very confusing.

I can only hope that there will be no further popups about Lunatics. CIS was THE WORST to deal with. No matter what I did with CIS, it refused to exclude BOINC, Project Folders, and the individual WU's being run. Every time a new WU came up, CIS would popup a message threatening to block the unit from running. I'm glad that PC Matic does NOT seem to be that way; so far.


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