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Message 1610470 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 16:24:09 UTC

I ponder many things... but I never pondered that :) Thanks Chris... now I am left pondering why I never pondered on it and what else I should have been pondering on and haven't... *leave thread cross-eyed*
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Message 1610479 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 17:04:37 UTC

Dirty word. The smart aleck is coming out in me. Counter Clock
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Message 1610481 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 17:19:47 UTC - in response to Message 1610479.  

Dirty word. The smart aleck is coming out in me. Counter Clock


THAT made me very uneasy just looking at :))))) and I want one NOW!!! :))))
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Message 1610496 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 18:24:47 UTC - in response to Message 1610491.  
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[quote]People will think you're cool and funny, really.


The "really" is a bit worrying... like tagging "trust me" on the end of a "good idea" ... *leave thread gazing suspiciously at it*
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Message 1610499 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 18:29:28 UTC - in response to Message 1610496.  

[quote]People will think you're cool and funny, really.


The "really" is a bit worrying... like tagging "trust me" on the end of a "good idea" ... *leave thread gazing suspiciously at it*

If you really want to play with peoples head, put it on a wall across from a large mirror because the hands will be right in the mirror (but the numbers will be flipped).
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Message 1610547 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 21:11:20 UTC - in response to Message 1610479.  

Dirty word. The smart aleck is coming out in me. Counter Clock

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Message 1610572 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 21:55:48 UTC

I still ponder why a week has seven days. And yes I have read the most plausible explanations. Remember the 7 day week precedes the Jewish explanation.
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Message 1610574 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 21:58:59 UTC - in response to Message 1610572.  

I still ponder why a week has seven days. And yes I have read the most plausible explanations. Remember the 7 day week precedes the Jewish explanation.


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Message 1610617 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 2:04:12 UTC - in response to Message 1610572.  

I still ponder why a week has seven days. And yes I have read the most plausible explanations. Remember the 7 day week precedes the Jewish explanation.

The best reason I can think of is the moon's orbit is 27.3 days. A 14 day week would be far to long. You could go with 3 weeks 9 days long. For a 6 or 5 day week the math isn't very close and you couldn't get any work done with a week any shorter, Originally people used the moon to tell time as it's phase change reduced the amount of math you needed but as math improved, they found the sun a better measure of time being of only about 1/4 day a year.
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Message 1610627 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 3:03:31 UTC - in response to Message 1610617.  
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I still ponder why a week has seven days. And yes I have read the most plausible explanations. Remember the 7 day week precedes the Jewish explanation.

The best reason I can think of is the moon's orbit is 27.3 days. A 14 day week would be far to long. You could go with 3 weeks 9 days long. For a 6 or 5 day week the math isn't very close and you couldn't get any work done with a week any shorter, Originally people used the moon to tell time as it's phase change reduced the amount of math you needed but as math improved, they found the sun a better measure of time being of only about 1/4 day a year.

I can buy some of that. But didnt most folks have to work everyday of a week? Untill religion came along and established one day of rest and worship.
It seems the sun with a 24 hour cycle and using the moon would be the better time keeper for folks who didnt know higher math.
IE How far away is the next village. It is 2 sun rises in that direction. Or how far away is the ocean. It is two full moons in that direction.
Its actually quite interesting on how we did come up with solving these questions back in antiquity. We seem not to even think about how they came about now.
Nice thread Chris. Its a thought provoker.
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Message 1610629 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 3:08:55 UTC

Mars has a day that's about 24 hours, 37 minutes long, as mentioned Here...
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Message 1610654 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 5:12:04 UTC - in response to Message 1610627.  

I still ponder why a week has seven days. And yes I have read the most plausible explanations. Remember the 7 day week precedes the Jewish explanation.

The best reason I can think of is the moon's orbit is 27.3 days. A 14 day week would be far to long. You could go with 3 weeks 9 days long. For a 6 or 5 day week the math isn't very close and you couldn't get any work done with a week any shorter, Originally people used the moon to tell time as it's phase change reduced the amount of math you needed but as math improved, they found the sun a better measure of time being of only about 1/4 day a year.

I can buy some of that. But didnt most folks have to work everyday of a week? Untill religion came along and established one day of rest and worship.
It seems the sun with a 24 hour cycle and using the moon would be the better time keeper for folks who didnt know higher math.
IE How far away is the next village. It is 2 sun rises in that direction. Or how far away is the ocean. It is two full moons in that direction.
Its actually quite interesting on how we did come up with solving these questions back in antiquity. We seem not to even think about how they came about now.
Nice thread Chris. Its a thought provoker.

People still needed to know when to plant the crops or when market day was. Even if they didn't get a day off a week, they still needed to tell time day to day.
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Message 1610766 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 11:46:16 UTC

I've heard that electric clocks use the 60 Hz cycle to control their time keeping.
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Message 1610804 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 13:52:51 UTC

Most clocks use the line frequency to determine the time but newer clocks that maintain the time through a power outage use an internal crystal which drifts over time unless it's synced to a radio time signal. This is why the clock on you video recorder needs to be adjusted from time to time.
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Message 1610836 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 15:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 1610832.  
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I have a radio controlled clock in the house that we use as the most accurate one, and we adjust the others to that ones time. The signal used to come from the Post Office Radio station at Rugby, these days the MSF signal is transmitted from Anthorn Radio Station in Cumbria by Babcock (formerly VT Communications), under contract to the National Physical Laboratory.

The signal is at 60khz which is where I think that Gordon got confused, as that frequency only applies to radio controlled clocks. The signal can be received throughout much of northern and western Europe.


All my clocks say different times... I don't believe any of them are right... it works for me :)

edit: re wondering why... I do... a lot... but since this thread was started I've gone completely blank... don't ask me why... :)
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Message 1610839 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 15:53:08 UTC
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As a kid, hydro was changed from 50hz to 60hz in Nothern Ontario. They replaced electric clocks with free new ones.

It should be noted that North American TV used the 60hz for vertical sync were the UK used 50hz. It's was a lot easier to design TVs using hydro as the base frequency to sync with.

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Message 1610954 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 20:57:56 UTC

I still ponder why a week has seven days. And yes I have read the most plausible explanations. Remember the 7 day week precedes the Jewish explanation.

I have a feeling that the seven days come from the time between moon cycles, 1st quarter, full moon, last quarter, new moon.

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Message 1611146 - Posted: 9 Dec 2014, 5:03:29 UTC - in response to Message 1610832.  

I have a radio controlled clock in the house that we use as the most accurate one, and we adjust the others to that ones time. The signal used to come from the Post Office Radio station at Rugby, these days the MSF signal is transmitted from Anthorn Radio Station in Cumbria by Babcock (formerly VT Communications), under contract to the National Physical Laboratory.

The signal is at 60khz which is where I think that Gordon got confused, as that frequency only applies to radio controlled clocks. The signal can be received throughout much of northern and western Europe.


I actually kind of thought a minute was based on the rhythm of an atom.
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Message 1611220 - Posted: 9 Dec 2014, 8:50:46 UTC - in response to Message 1611146.  

I have a radio controlled clock in the house that we use as the most accurate one, and we adjust the others to that ones time. The signal used to come from the Post Office Radio station at Rugby, these days the MSF signal is transmitted from Anthorn Radio Station in Cumbria by Babcock (formerly VT Communications), under contract to the National Physical Laboratory.

The signal is at 60khz which is where I think that Gordon got confused, as that frequency only applies to radio controlled clocks. The signal can be received throughout much of northern and western Europe.


I actually kind of thought a minute was based on the rhythm of an atom.

Well Gordon, That just shows how young you are. Before that it was a balance wheel in a time piece:) Backed up by daily observitory time.
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Message 1611221 - Posted: 9 Dec 2014, 8:53:57 UTC - in response to Message 1611220.  

I have a radio controlled clock in the house that we use as the most accurate one, and we adjust the others to that ones time. The signal used to come from the Post Office Radio station at Rugby, these days the MSF signal is transmitted from Anthorn Radio Station in Cumbria by Babcock (formerly VT Communications), under contract to the National Physical Laboratory.

The signal is at 60khz which is where I think that Gordon got confused, as that frequency only applies to radio controlled clocks. The signal can be received throughout much of northern and western Europe.


I actually kind of thought a minute was based on the rhythm of an atom.

Well Gordon, That just shows how young you are. Before that it was a balance wheel in a time piece:) Backed up by daily observitory time.


lol, I guess I am an "atomic age" baby. :~)
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