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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
It confuses the REAL issue Do you have any links where we can read about Ukraina officially now are glorifying WWII atrocitites? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
"The main problem in the Polish-Ukrainian relations is the genocide, which the members of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army and the SS Galizien and other pro-Hitler Ukrainian formations have made against Poles and Polish citizens of other nationalities". And yet... Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski sees no problems in the sale of weapons to Ukraine. He said that no embargo on arms sales had been imposed on Ukraine and therefore Warsaw "can help with this if Ukraine expresses such a desire." http://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/deshchytsia_confirms_ukraines_readiness_to_buy_weapons_from_poland_327890 And Kazakhstan will supply energy coal to Ukraine, Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev said. http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/nazarbayev-kazakhstan-to-supply-ekibastuz-coal-to-ukraine-375852.html |
metalius Send message Joined: 8 Oct 02 Posts: 48 Credit: 32,239,717 RAC: 15 |
You don't want to see a main thing - not Russian troops there but the volunteers only. Yes of course, volunteers. Especially paratroopers from Pskov. |
metalius Send message Joined: 8 Oct 02 Posts: 48 Credit: 32,239,717 RAC: 15 |
The Russians fighting a 'holy war' in Ukraine. Yes of course, again. This dirty, hidden, non-conventional war for grabbing new territories and restoration of empire is holy war. Also, offensive is defence. Also, aggressor is victim. Also, occupation is liberation - no doubt, YOU (absolute majority of Russian people worldwide) are dreaming, how to liberate Ukraine from ukrainians, Lithuania from lithuanians... And finally, black is white, white is black. No doubt again, Putin's propaganda (which in reality is modern and advanced version of Stalin's propaganda) processed YOUR brains very well. Sorry for brutality, today YOU are fatal enemies for us. Maybe, situation will change in the future. But if and only if YOU will understand крымнаш evolved to намкрыш... Death for empires, freedom for nations! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The Russians fighting a 'holy war' in Ukraine. The holy war also include to "liberate" Finland, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia to protect russian ethnics from "western atrocities". The russians want to do it because of historical reasons! I dont Think you cannot claim history treaties with today... |
metalius Send message Joined: 8 Oct 02 Posts: 48 Credit: 32,239,717 RAC: 15 |
I dont Think you cannot claim history treaties with today... My English is poor - explain, please, what do You mean under this... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I dont Think you cannot claim history treaties with today... I mean that Russia claims a lot of territories for historical reasons. Thats nonsense! Ukraine and Chrimea have not been part of Russia for the last three decades. Karelia, part of Finland, have not been part of Russia ever. Many other parts are not Russian... If we swedes would do the same rethoric both Finland and Estonia would become Swedish again:) Russification comes to mind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Ukrainian ex-president Yushchenko (pro-Western) about the Maidan - "I well understood that in that political circle of leaders who appeared there, there lived other project, in parallel political to that action which happens on the Maidan square. When I became a witness of mimicry, when as seemed absolutely majestic, healthy demand of the smart young people are overlapped of the power transformation, I realized that we will go in a great national calamity". http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ru&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pravda.com.ua%2Frus%2Fnews%2F2014%2F12%2F25%2F7053321%2F |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
I mean that Russia claims a lot of territories for historical reasons. Yes, it's nonsense, of course. Really Russians don't claims any territories except some territories of modern Ukraine. |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
It confuses the REAL issue The dozens of monuments, museums, memorial boards, street names for Bandera, Shukhevych and other activists of UPA and OUN. It's not a secret for any who is interested. |
metalius Send message Joined: 8 Oct 02 Posts: 48 Credit: 32,239,717 RAC: 15 |
If we swedes would do the same rethoric both Finland and Estonia would become Swedish again:) And, of course, You would begin a war against Lithuania for domination over Latvia... :o) Now I understand Your point of view - thank You for explanation. And I agree, of course. |
metalius Send message Joined: 8 Oct 02 Posts: 48 Credit: 32,239,717 RAC: 15 |
Really Russians don't claims any territories except some territories of modern Ukraine. O'rly? "Putin talks about "New Russia". Why You do not trust him?" (c) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
It confuses the REAL issue Stalingrad name may return to city in wave of second world war patriotism. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/08/stalingrad-name-may-return-to-russian-city For more than 300 years, the Russian city of Volgograd was known as Tsaritsyn. It was dubbed Stalingrad in honour of Soviet leader Joseph Stalin for a mere 26 years, but then his successor Nikita Khrushchev dropped that name as part of his campaign to dismantle the personality cult of the former dictator. TV Rain, one of the few surviving sources of independent news in a landscape dominated by state media, said it was now on the brink of bankruptcy. The ostensible pretext for the decision was an online poll conducted by the channel last month. It asked whether the Soviets should have surrendered Leningrad during the second world war in order to save hundreds of thousands of lives. The poll appeared on the 70th anniversary of the siege of Leningrad, in which 800,000 people died. The editors later removed it and issued an apology in the wake of a furious and co-ordinated attack by pro-Kremlin deputies. They have called on the general prosecutor's office to investigate the station for alleged extremism. Putin's press spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said the channel had crossed a moral red line. Soon afterwards providers started pulling it from the air. Many Ukrainians remember Stalin's reign of terror with terror. Holodomor, purges and deportations. And now it seems like the Russians, are fond of Stalin again and glorifying atrocitites:( Russian language to Ukrainian: "Hey girl, move a little! You're oppressing me!" |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Russia Shoots Down Santa’s Sleigh Near North Pole! http://dailycurrant.com/2014/12/24/russia-shoots-down-santas-sleigh-near-north-pole/ Ukraine again discontinues power supply to Crimea. http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukraine-again-discontinues-power-supply-to-crimea-376184.html Sevastopol, 26 December. Unfinished 16-storied house in Sevastopol Crimea turned into a kind of "Pisa leaning tower". The directed explosion has not had the desired effect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1McSQSqfeIY |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
janneseti... That'll be the day... I Think the World including Russia would be outraged! |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Ukrainian ex-president Yuschenko: "I understand that you can offend, of course, the occupier Putin, who has gone mad, but, on the other hand, there is a feeling that he came to where least of all Ukrainian, where there is no our language practically, where there is no our memory, where there is no our church, where there is no our culture". http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/12/26/7053324/ |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Maybe you are ignorant? For example, Stalingrad is a Paris Metro station. Also, the Place de la Bataille-de-Stalingrad is a square in Paris. |
Igor Kostyaev Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 763 Credit: 80,254,329 RAC: 91 |
Igor... LOL. Some brainwashed people can't understand some simple things, but it's their problem only, not my. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I dont Think Place de la Bataille-de-Stalingrad where named to glorify Stalin. Just to remember the horrific battle in WWII. It's also difficult to change history. But Russia tries... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The international payment system MasterCard due to United States sanctions suspended the service cards of Russian banks operating in Crimea. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ru&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fpodrobnosti.ua%2Feconomy%2F2014%2F12%2F26%2F1009184.html And Visa. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ru&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fpodrobnosti.ua%2Feconomy%2F2014%2F12%2F26%2F1009174.html |
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