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Message 1568715 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 15:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 1568699.  

Trust the Swedes and the Aussies to lower the tone of the proceedings .... :-))


At least they're funny about it, unlike Brits when they're having too much fun...

...as Magaluf shows the world.
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Message 1568717 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 16:00:59 UTC - in response to Message 1568715.  
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Trust the Swedes and the Aussies to lower the tone of the proceedings .... :-))


At least they're funny about it, unlike Brits when they're having too much fun...

...as Magaluf shows the world.

LOL Humour is also an art:)
Does humour belong in Music?
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Message 1568721 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 16:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 1568719.  
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The Sydney Opera house it not art it is a building. The design may be thought by some to be artistic, but that is a another matter.

For heavens sake Chris.
The Sydney Opera house is an Icon of Australia.
Admired by ALL arkitekts in the World!
True art Chris.
Aussies are proud of it.
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Message 1568723 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 16:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 1568719.  

The Sydney Opera house it not art it is a building. The design may be thought by some to be artistic, but that is a another matter.

Art is in the eye of the beholder

Of course it is, that always has been true, and it will always will be.


So the Dome or the Dean's staircase in St Paul's is not art, just something an old relic put together, or...

...the Golden Gate bridge is just a pile of metal...
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Message 1568728 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 16:23:09 UTC - in response to Message 1568723.  
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The Sydney Opera house it not art it is a building. The design may be thought by some to be artistic, but that is a another matter.

Art is in the eye of the beholder

Of course it is, that always has been true, and it will always will be.


So the Dome or the Dean's staircase in St Paul's is not art, just something an old relic put together, or...

...the Golden Gate bridge is just a pile of metal...

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To Chris (I have learnt that your are the OP in this thread)
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Message 1568736 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 17:00:55 UTC - in response to Message 1568733.  

It is not a work of art or an artform as such, it is a building that has attained iconic status.


To repeat your own words...
Art is in the eye of the beholder

Of course it is, that always has been true, and it will always will be.


"One man's meat is another man's poison"

An architect designs buildings, so who is to say that the design is not a piece of art?

Read what you post & do not deign to rubbish what others see when it does not meet your "particular thought patterns".
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Message 1568737 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 17:01:57 UTC
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I like rocks :) They're so old... and you find fascinating creatures under them too... or sunbathing on top of them of course... which can even make you leap about and head for the nearest horizon :)

Here... I'm not sure whether it's the rock that's defining the art... or whether it's the moving and placing of it that does... But of course it goes much further than that when we weigh the juxtaposition of its setting (static, urban concrete and glass) with the raw unsophistication of nature's own concrete - rock - being made fluid by human and mechanical effort... in the same way that a glacier does in one of nature's many one-way streets - which suggests it can't be ignored... SNORT! Sorry! :) Heh heh heh I have an artist in the family - he doesn't speak like that - but I've had to learn artspeak :/ in order to explain artspeak to him) :)))))))))))))

I have a friend (6 foot 8 inches tall) who obtained his masters in conceptual art by carrying a square, empty canvas (that entirely obscured him from view... and the view from him :)) around London's west end for the eight busiest hours on a Saturday. Was that art? I don't know... he teaches English now.
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Message 1568744 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 17:28:59 UTC

What passes for art in LA has always been ...

a little twisted.
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Message 1568748 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 17:50:10 UTC - in response to Message 1568744.  

What passes for art in LA has always been ...

a little twisted.

Love it:)
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Message 1568770 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 18:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 1568765.  

Well Gary, LA has always been LA :-)))

But let's remember the English language.
    An artform is describing something that is a recognized medium of artistic expression like a painting, sculpture, acting etc.

    Artistic is someones opinion of an artform.

    Art could mean visual arts, decorative arts, or performing arts.

    Artwork is the physical manifestation of all the above.

If you wish to see a lump of rock as art, an artform, or artistic, then that is your personal choice. A lump of rock is a lump of rock, unless somebody confers iconic status upon it, and convinces others to follow suit and believe it (baaaaa).

Art is in the eye of the beholder


Just like Art, there is more than one language in the world.
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Message 1568777 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 18:55:11 UTC

Art is what makes something more interesting than it's default state. My house could be gray block walls with a flat roof but instead it is painted, has trim and a slopped tile roof. You have the option of a white canvas or you can add properly placed paint to make it more interesting. The different between weeds and flowers is the art we see in flowers. What makes it art is the difference between functional and pleasing to the eye. If you can't see the difference between the item and the enhancements, then it's not art.
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Message 1568784 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 19:14:56 UTC - in response to Message 1568765.  

Well Gary, LA has always been LA :-)))

But let's remember the English language.
    An artform is describing something that is a recognized medium of artistic expression like a painting, sculpture, acting etc.

    Artistic is someones opinion of an artform.

    Art could mean visual arts, decorative arts, or performing arts.

    Artwork is the physical manifestation of all the above.

If you wish to see a lump of rock as art, an artform, or artistic, then that is your personal choice. A lump of rock is a lump of rock, unless somebody confers iconic status upon it, and convinces others to follow suit and believe it (baaaaa).

Art is in the eye of the beholder


You are totally wrong.
There is no definition of art.
Like there is no definition of Beautiful and Ugly.
Like Troll mother and her Troll Childrens.
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Message 1568798 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 19:37:48 UTC - in response to Message 1568792.  

Like there is no definition of Beautiful and Ugly.

Yes there is, popular public opinion.



There is no definition of good and evil either, yet we seem to know the difference.
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Message 1568802 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 19:40:23 UTC - in response to Message 1568792.  
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Like there is no definition of Beautiful and Ugly.

Yes there is, popular public opinion.


I see. The popular public opinion rules the way how people should Think about art. Nice.
And the trolls in pic before. Are they ugly or beautiful.
What do you Think Troll mother Thinks of her Children?
Its from a lullaby for instance that every Swedish Child knows.
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Message 1568805 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 19:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 1568802.  

Like there is no definition of Beautiful and Ugly.

Yes there is, popular public opinion.


I see. The Moral Majority rules the World. Nice.



Let's not get this thread into the political direction Janne:)
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Message 1568807 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 19:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 1568805.  
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Like there is no definition of Beautiful and Ugly.

Yes there is, popular public opinion.

I see. The Moral Majority rules the World. Nice.

Let's not get this thread into the political direction Janne:)

No I certainly wont do that.
I here for fun Julie:)

But art can be VERY political. Remember Pussy Riot?
But in this thread? No. Why. There is already Political threads.
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Message 1568819 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 20:17:10 UTC - in response to Message 1568807.  

Like there is no definition of Beautiful and Ugly.

Yes there is, popular public opinion.

I see. The Moral Majority rules the World. Nice.

Let's not get this thread into the political direction Janne:)

No I certainly wont do that.
I here for fun Julie:)

But art can be VERY political. Remember Pussy Riot?
But in this thread? No. Why. There is already Political threads.


Art itself can be very political, which is why this thread...

Art or Eyesore?

...was placed there for the simple reason is that art like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, & that beholder has opinions which often lead to topical & sometimes heated debate.
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Message 1568833 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 20:51:27 UTC - in response to Message 1568816.  

Philistinism

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Message 1568847 - Posted: 7 Sep 2014, 21:15:33 UTC - in response to Message 1568819.  
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Like there is no definition of Beautiful and Ugly.

Yes there is, popular public opinion.

I see. The Moral Majority rules the World. Nice.

Let's not get this thread into the political direction Janne:)

No I certainly wont do that.
I here for fun Julie:)
But art can be VERY political. Remember Pussy Riot?
But in this thread? No. Why. There is already Political threads.

Art itself can be very political, which is why this thread...
Art or Eyesore?
...was placed there for the simple reason is that art like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, & that beholder has opinions which often lead to topical & sometimes heated debate.

Looks like a roller coaster to me.
Who paid £22.7 million which is a LOT? Silly question of me. Taxpayers of course
Christos art is MUCH cheaper.
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