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Message 1543930 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:16:33 UTC - in response to Message 1543928.  

So since this conflict began, the US has no satellite/s tasked solely to that area?
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Message 1543940 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:31:30 UTC - in response to Message 1543930.  

So since this conflict began, the US has no satellite/s tasked solely to that area?

Observation satellites operate in low orbit at about the same height, 400 miles, as the ISS. It is comms satellites that operate in geostationary orbit and that is 23,000 miles (36,000 km) away.
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Message 1543942 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:37:32 UTC - in response to Message 1543930.  

So since this conflict began, the US has no satellite/s tasked solely to that area?


I must say, I'm a little puzzled. I heard an early report saying the US had tracked the missile from the minute it was fired until it hit the plane - which was why they knew it was no ordinary aircraft accident. Must've been speculation at the time - or burial since. :/
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Message 1543944 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:41:47 UTC - in response to Message 1543942.  

I heard the same report, yet no mention of the missile that hit the military jet?

Is US intelligence really that inadequate or are they hiding something?
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Message 1543949 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:48:29 UTC - in response to Message 1543944.  
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So since this conflict began, the US has no satellite/s tasked solely to that area?
The Pentagon has constant satellite survalance. That's how we know of every shot fired.
I heard the same report, yet no mention of the missile that hit the military jet?

Is US intelligence really that inadequate or are they hiding something?
No to one, yes to two. Do you think US would tell what we know and can do? They don't even tell me and I'm a fine American.

BTW the bodies are still laying where they fell.
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Message 1543957 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 18:28:23 UTC - in response to Message 1543949.  

An Indiana University student from Amsterdam was among those killed when Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 crashed in Ukraine, the school said in a statement.
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Message 1543964 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 18:57:52 UTC - in response to Message 1543944.  

Is US intelligence really that inadequate

Yes they are!
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Message 1543966 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 19:07:21 UTC - in response to Message 1543907.  

I just saw a picture on CNN of a buk launcher heading back to Russia with one rocket missing. Oh yes we are going to get a fair and honest investigation. US will leave it with you'z guy'z.
Upon further review there were two rockets missing from the launchers heading back to Russia.
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Message 1543983 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 20:01:43 UTC

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Message 1543988 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 20:15:10 UTC
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Why is Obama and the world looking for any reason to get US involved in this. Obama mentioned the lone passenger that can even be remotely linked to the US. He mentioned Schansman, an anchor baby, as an American. He was borne in the US to Dutch parents but lived his entire life in Holland. OK not an anchor baby as he and his mother went back home. His father is still here working for a European bank. He can only be listed once and is listed as Dutch as that who issued his passport.
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Message 1543989 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 20:18:57 UTC - in response to Message 1543988.  

Why is Obama and the world looking for any reason to get US involved in this. Obama mentioned the lone passenger that can even be remotely linked to the US. He mentioned Schansman, an anchor baby, as an American. He was borne in the US to Dutch parents but lived his entire life in Holland. OK not an anchor baby as he and his mother went back home. His father is still here working for a European bank.

I don't think he is looking to get involved. He is sending one FBI agent and one NTSB agent. That is a pretty clear sign that he does not want the US to play much of a role here. My guess is that he is leaving that to the Dutch and Malaysians, given that we got the most casualties and the plane is from Malaysia.
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Message 1543991 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 20:28:31 UTC - in response to Message 1543989.  

Why is Obama and the world looking for any reason to get US involved in this. Obama mentioned the lone passenger that can even be remotely linked to the US. He mentioned Schansman, an anchor baby, as an American. He was borne in the US to Dutch parents but lived his entire life in Holland. OK not an anchor baby as he and his mother went back home. His father is still here working for a European bank.

I don't think he is looking to get involved. He is sending one FBI agent and one NTSB agent. That is a pretty clear sign that he does not want the US to play much of a role here. My guess is that he is leaving that to the Dutch and Malaysians, given that we got the most casualties and the plane is from Malaysia.

Not to mention Obama's lack of backbone and the difficulties involved in the US meting out any significant response to Russia.
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Message 1543994 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 20:29:35 UTC - in response to Message 1543989.  
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I don't think he is looking to get involved. He is sending one FBI agent and one NTSB agent. That is a pretty clear sign that he does not want the US to play much of a role here. My guess is that he is leaving that to the Dutch and Malaysians, given that we got the most casualties and the plane is from Malaysia.
Two guys one FBI and one NTSB are on site and were meet with hostility and only given access to a small portion of the wreckage that is spread out over five miles. This isn't going to be easy and the US will not force the issue on the ground. Obama and Putin don't want a confrontation. The US has only one real concern in the world and that is Russia.

Not to mention Obama's lack of backbone and the difficulties involved in the US meting out any significant response to Russia.
Putin and Russia are not Noriega and Panama. What should US do, this is not our fight. I feel happy and safe, its up to those people to take care of their own problems.
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Message 1544002 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 20:46:43 UTC - in response to Message 1543988.  

Why is Obama and the world looking for any reason to get US involved in this.

US is involved in this!
Global economy. Remember.
Europe. Remember.
US. Remember
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Message 1544005 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 20:56:59 UTC - in response to Message 1544002.  

Why is Obama and the world looking for any reason to get US involved in this.

US is involved in this!
Global economy. Remember.
Europe. Remember.
US. Remember

That is nothing, I'm talking about flag draped coffin involvement. We are behind you all the way cheering you on.
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Message 1544007 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 21:03:07 UTC - in response to Message 1543994.  

Putin and Russia are not Noriega and Panama.

Funny that you mention this:)
My girlfrends father worked as a mining consultant together with Noriega in the 90s.
She also worked with Pasqaule a minister in Panama.
He had a big appetite. Three chickens as a snack!
He had three sisters who fed him!
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Message 1544020 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 21:42:52 UTC

Lies: Spanish Flight Operations Officer from Kiev Informed about Ukrainian Planes Involved in Boeing Tragedy
http://www.stopfake.org/en/lies-spanish-flight-operations-officer-from-kiev-informed-about-ukrainian-planes-involved-in-boeing-tragedy/
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Message 1544028 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 22:09:09 UTC

And it seems that monitors that have arrived on the site are meeting with a bit of armed hostility....
International monitors investigating the Malaysia Airlines crash in eastern Ukraine said Friday the team was not given full access to the site and was greeted with hostility by armed men guarding the scene.
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Message 1544029 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 22:12:11 UTC

Looks to me like Russia is becoming a rogue state. Very dangerous.
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Message 1544034 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 22:22:09 UTC - in response to Message 1544029.  

Looks to me like Russia is becoming a rogue state. Very dangerous.

What are those most in danger going to do? So far they love their comfort more than their freedom. The EU won't even sanction Putin for fear he will cut off their gas. Oh poor babies. I hope they don't expect US to give them more that a pat on the back and a go get'em; we are right behind you.
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