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Message 1543829 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 14:22:05 UTC
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In case any wonder who is responsible for this tragic event.
SBU [Ukraine’s Security Service] made public two intercepted calls which the SBU say show that the plane was downed by pro-Russian Cossack militants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyZYgSXdyw&list=UURxyjhmvBewJIRb2yku5EuQ&hd=1
Russian LifeNews inadvertently told the truth about downed Malaysian airline
http://khpg.org.ua/en/index.php?id=1405634995
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Message 1543831 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 14:32:23 UTC - in response to Message 1543826.  
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The plane was flying 200 miles north of the usual rout because of storms. This is not unusual but it could have confused the thugs with high tech rockets.

I find it interesting that Putin said the country over whose territory it was shot down is responsible. So is Putin saying that province is part of Ukraine or that the thugs did it?

It appears the rockets were fired by the thugs, not the regular Russian Army, who thought it was a Ukrainian cargo plane.

The BUK is a High Tech Weapons System. Having just talked to certain personnel: It takes Extensive knowledge/training to Maintain and Calibrate these Weapon's System (Even Russian High Tech Weapons).

They say, AT BEST (for Russia), if the Rebel's did capture this Weapons System: Russia must accept responsibility for training these people in the Use and Maintenance of this Weapon. You can't just Capture, and Fire these weapons.

Yes. It is not kids stuff! But thugs are usually retarded.
They cant even RTFM!
Pro-Kremlin political analyst Sergei Kurguinjan week ago said that the separatists have anti-aircraft missile system "Buk", and the readiness of the militants to use these weapons.
The corresponding statement was published on the youtube channel on July 13.
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Message 1543833 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 14:37:03 UTC - in response to Message 1543829.  

In case any wonder who is responsible for this tragic event.
SBU [Ukraine’s Security Service] made public two intercepted calls which the SBU say show that the plane was downed by pro-Russian Cossack militants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyZYgSXdyw&list=UURxyjhmvBewJIRb2yku5EuQ&hd=1
Russian LifeNews inadvertently told the truth about downed Malaysian airline
http://khpg.org.ua/en/index.php?id=1405634995


:( Yes - and whatever it was they thought they'd shot down (cargo plane perhaps?) they knew when the bodies (a lot of them) started raining down that this plane's "cargo" was human. Senseless, mindless oh-look-what-a-big-gun-we've-got STUPIDITY at best... and I'm NOT feeling at my best :(((((((((
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Message 1543840 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 14:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 1543833.  
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In case any wonder who is responsible for this tragic event.
SBU [Ukraine’s Security Service] made public two intercepted calls which the SBU say show that the plane was downed by pro-Russian Cossack militants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyZYgSXdyw&list=UURxyjhmvBewJIRb2yku5EuQ&hd=1
Russian LifeNews inadvertently told the truth about downed Malaysian airline
http://khpg.org.ua/en/index.php?id=1405634995


:( Yes - and whatever it was they thought they'd shot down (cargo plane perhaps?) they knew when the bodies (a lot of them) started raining down that this plane's "cargo" was human. Senseless, mindless oh-look-what-a-big-gun-we've-got STUPIDITY at best... and I'm NOT feeling at my best :(((((((((


I also don't feel well.
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Which reminds me that I have to feed Morris soon.
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Message 1543860 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 15:30:32 UTC - in response to Message 1543831.  

Yes. It is not kids stuff! But thugs are usually retarded.
They cant even RTFM!
Real thugs don't RTFM.
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Message 1543880 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 15:49:51 UTC - in response to Message 1543860.  

Yes. It is not kids stuff! But thugs are usually retarded.
They cant even RTFM!
Real thugs don't RTFM.

Giggle:)
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Message 1543906 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 16:32:37 UTC - in response to Message 1543903.  

Does it really matter where the hell it came from? What should be getting done is tracing where it was fired from, track the scumbags that launched it & arrest them.
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Message 1543910 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 16:40:15 UTC - in response to Message 1543906.  

Does it really matter where the hell it came from? What should be getting done is tracing where it was fired from, track the scumbags that launched it & arrest them.

I just saw a picture on CNN of a buk launcher heading back to Russia with one rocket missing. Oh yes we are going to get a fair and honest investigation. Putin did it, so now what?
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Message 1543914 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 16:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 1543910.  

Does it really matter where the hell it came from? What should be getting done is tracing where it was fired from, track the scumbags that launched it & arrest them.

I just saw a picture on CNN of a buk launcher heading back to Russia with one rocket missing. Oh yes we are going to get a fair and honest investigation. Putin did it, so now what?


Only the one? So what shot down the military jet? A pea-shooter?
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Message 1543916 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 16:48:01 UTC - in response to Message 1543903.  
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Yes. It is not kids stuff! But thugs are usually retarded.
They cant even RTFM!
Real thugs don't RTFM.

Giggle:)

Latest Russian/Terrorist intercept says this weapon came from Russia.

It is 15 countries who has BUKs.
One of them is Finland:)
Another one is Ukraine separatists in East Ukraine!
And yes, Ukraine have them too.
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Message 1543921 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:01:15 UTC

The Pentagon will be holding a news conference in one hour. They knew immediately where it was fired from they just wanted to double check.
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Message 1543924 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:05:44 UTC - in response to Message 1543921.  

The Pentagon will be holding a news conference in one hour. They knew immediately where it was fired from they just wanted to double check.


So do they know where the other missile was fired from & where the launcher is as CNN has a photo of a launcher with only one missile missing?
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Message 1543938 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 17:28:12 UTC - in response to Message 1543924.  

The Pentagon will be holding a news conference in one hour. They knew immediately where it was fired from they just wanted to double check.

So do they know where the other missile was fired from & where the launcher is as CNN has a photo of a launcher with only one missile missing?
This is just a regularly scheduled press conference. It was supposed to be about the neutralizing of chemical weapons in Syria. The Admiral as I type is doing political speak when asked about the missile; "I don't have that information" "You will have to ask Ukraine" "You will have to ask the investigators". The only telling statement was "It's beyond credulity that this weapon could be fired without training".
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Message 1543969 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 19:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 1543914.  

Only the one? So what shot down the military jet? A pea-shooter?
Upon further revue there were two rockets missing.

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Message 1543973 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 19:28:00 UTC

SBU releases more conversations implicating Russia in shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight (VIDEO, TRANSCRIPT)
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/sbu-releases-more-conversations-implicating-russia-in-shooting-down-malaysia-airlines-flight-video-transcript-2-356778.html
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Message 1543982 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 20:00:38 UTC - in response to Message 1543973.  

SBU releases more conversations implicating Russia in shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight.
The US must know more than they are saying. They listen in on every conversation so they must be paying special attention to what is said in that part of the world. Putin and Obama talk on the phone regularly so there is no doubt back room deals being made. That's got to be frustrating for the rest to know they are just pawns in the US Russian chess game.

There was a documentary on US TV last week about the US triad of nuclear weapons, land, sea and air. The US land missile system is aging and expensive to maintain. A telling statement was the Russians know where they are and they can't be moved. So it is obvious who the only real threat to the US is Russia.
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Message 1544141 - Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 4:24:38 UTC - in response to Message 1544137.  

Since their Superior's are Russian, stationed Inside Russian Territory: Putin is responsible for every Terrorist Act committed by His Puppets.
Obama most likely has the proof but is holding it back for some reason. The closest he came to an outright accusation that Russia shot down the plane is when Pentagon Press Secretary Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby said;
“It strains credulity to think that [the separatists] could do this without some measure of Russian support and assistance.”

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Message 1544146 - Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 4:34:43 UTC - in response to Message 1544137.  

The words in these intercepts are interesting.

Of really more importance: They show 'The Rebels' (give me a break) reporting back to their Superior's.

Since their Superior's are Russian, stationed Inside Russian Territory: Putin is responsible for every Terrorist Act committed by His Puppets.

Yes, especially as they continue to draw their Russian pay.
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Message 1544311 - Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 13:05:09 UTC - in response to Message 1544146.  
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The words in these intercepts are interesting.
Of really more importance: They show 'The Rebels' (give me a break) reporting back to their Superior's.
Since their Superior's are Russian, stationed Inside Russian Territory: Putin is responsible for every Terrorist Act committed by His Puppets.

Yes, especially as they continue to draw their Russian pay.

Vasyl Geranin. Colonel of the Main Intelligence Directorat GRU of the General Staff of the Russain Armed Forces.

Igor Vsevolodovich Girkin, AKA Igor Steel Stalin Strelkov former GRU officer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin
Simple loser and "historical reconstructor" from Moscow Alex Stiletto told me!
And is NOT a Colonel, only a simple Lieutenant aged 43!
Igor has an IQ much like a gherkin:)

MANY voulenteers from Caucasus and Grozny Russia.

The hide and seek game is over.
Bedtime kids.
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Message 1544842 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 12:30:29 UTC
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Swedish 'Dagens Nyheter' reporter Jan Lewenhagen and photographer Paul Hansen captured by separatists in eastern Ukraine on Sunday - but was released shortly thereafter. "It was a demonstration of power," said editor Peter Wolodarski.

The team was arrested in the morning and taken to Donetsk, where they were transferred into an authority building. There was also captured journalists from the BBC and Russia Today. Separatists blamed them for not having proper press accreditation.
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