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Message 1543335 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 18:55:50 UTC

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Message 1543343 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 19:04:50 UTC - in response to Message 1543335.  

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Correct, this will be the hot topic for some time.
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Message 1543349 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 19:17:13 UTC - in response to Message 1543343.  
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Neo-Nazis are as dangerous as pro-Russia extremists in Eastern Ukraine
Here is one from Sweden! who are fighting against pro-russians extremists.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
Swedish National Guard? I dont know what that is.
I dont like this:(
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Message 1543358 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 19:26:07 UTC

I wonder why civilian aircraft is flying so close to a military conflict zone....?
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Message 1543360 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 19:30:33 UTC - in response to Message 1543358.  

I wonder why civilian aircraft is flying so close to a military conflict zone....?


Me too.
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Message 1543361 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 19:31:08 UTC - in response to Message 1543358.  

I wonder why civilian aircraft is flying so close to a military conflict zone....?

Ask Air Traffic Control why they routed it there?
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Message 1543362 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 19:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 1543361.  

I wonder why civilian aircraft is flying so close to a military conflict zone....?

Ask Air Traffic Control why they routed it there?

Yes. With this in mind.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ukraine
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Message 1543368 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 19:53:07 UTC - in response to Message 1543358.  
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I wonder why civilian aircraft is flying so close to a military conflict zone....?

Because they did not realise that the Russian rebels had access to more than hand held anti-aircraft weapons.

It takes radar and larger missiles to reach 35,000 ft (10,000m).

Even systems like this Rapier only reach 8,000m, on a good day.

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Message 1543372 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 19:59:16 UTC - in response to Message 1543358.  
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I wonder why civilian aircraft is flying so close to a military conflict zone....?
They didn't think they could be shot down at 33,000 feet. It is now a no fly zone.

Confirmed it was shot down by a Russian rocket. Who fired it is the question.
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Message 1543423 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 21:00:53 UTC

Plane happens to be same airline and model I believe as one that went missing earlier this year with some suggestions of CIA involvement. The rebels in Ukraine haven't previously been using truck mounted surface to air missiles but now suddenly they have.

Fill in the gaps yourselves but smells like conspiracy.
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Message 1543428 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 21:03:26 UTC - in response to Message 1543372.  
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I wonder why civilian aircraft is flying so close to a military conflict zone....?
They didn't think they could be shot down at 33,000 feet. It is now a no fly zone.
Confirmed it was shot down by a Russian rocket. Who fired it is the question.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/could-russian-or-pro-russian-forces-have-shot-down-mh17-1606641861
There was also an Ukrianian Su-25 "Frogfoot" close to the Malaysian plane when this tragic event happened.
Collateral damage?
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Message 1543430 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 21:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 1543423.  

That's totally stupid. There's an old saying & a true one...

"The truth will out".

...However should it ever prove to be the case, then rather than be the world's policeman, the US will become the biggest pariah on the planet.

TBH, I don't think they'll be that stupid.
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Message 1543441 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 21:17:55 UTC

Plane happens to be same airline and model I believe as one that went missing earlier this year with some suggestions of CIA involvement. The rebels in Ukraine haven't previously been using truck mounted surface to air missiles but now suddenly they have.

Fill in the gaps yourselves but smells like conspiracy.


Batter Up asked.
The only question that remains is how to blame this on "The Great Satan".
Now he knows.

"The Great Satan" confirmed it was a missile as he picked up the radar tracking turning on and the heat signal of it exploding. Soon he will announce the location from where it was fired. The EU is now a hornets nest and not in the mood for silly accusations.
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Message 1543477 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 21:44:07 UTC - in response to Message 1543467.  

Putin Adopts Dolphins

Putin swimming with fishes. :) Now that is a great idea.
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Message 1543484 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 21:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1543430.  

...However should it ever prove to be the case, then rather than be the world's policeman, the US will become the biggest pariah on the planet.

TBH, I don't think they'll be that stupid.


Nobody asked US to police the world. In any case it's not like they have a great record with CIA backed coups and operations. To date they've managed to avoid international condemnation from their Western allies, why would this be different?
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Message 1543486 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 21:49:10 UTC - in response to Message 1543477.  

Putin Adopts Dolphins

Putin swimming with fishes. :) Now that is a great idea.

Anal time; dolphins are not fish and the quote is "sleeps with the fishes". Ben Laden sleeps with the fishes.
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Message 1543499 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 22:01:43 UTC - in response to Message 1543486.  

Putin Adopts Dolphins

Putin swimming with fishes. :) Now that is a great idea.

Anal time; dolphins are not fish and the quote is "sleeps with the fishes". Ben Laden sleeps with the fishes.

Dolphins are mammals just as we are.
They are close to elephants and have about the same intelligence and compassion as we have.
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Message 1543500 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 22:03:28 UTC - in response to Message 1543499.  

They are close to elephants and have about the same intelligence and compassion as we have.

Ah but do they have religion & the hatred that comes with religion?
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Message 1543508 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 22:15:50 UTC - in response to Message 1543500.  

They are close to elephants and have about the same intelligence and compassion as we have.

Ah but do they have religion & the hatred that comes with religion?

I don't know about religions except for us 'humans'
Whales and apes seems not to care to the concept.
Hatred is another story...
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