> > Get on the alpha/beta projects and post about them there
> > or get on the boinc_dev mailing list.
>
> Where and how?

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/community.php

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> I checked something out, on my machine it only crashes when i hit manually
> update the project.
>
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Same thing here, but only after the second time of pushing manuelly "update".

Another point: when you set "disable network access", the message - box (hangs) don't indicate that, when the WU is done and the next starts (sometimes you have to push it manuelly by "update", but only once, that the next WU starts (or the second on HT)) then the message appears.

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I wouldn’t mind being ppc7450 β. I'll first try for 3,333.3 cr, though.

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Hi

I´ve find out that only some mesaages will not shown.
Suspend network access is never shown.
Resume will be shown, after next message.

greetz Mike

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

Overclocking SETI@home should not be done. Before everyone starts flaming, here's why.

SETI@home is sensitive to a single-bit error. That is, an entire work-unit calculation, hours long, can be ruined by a single transistor saying 1 for a billionth of a second when it should say 0.

This is not like running Half Life 2, where one little polygon in a battle scene showing light gray instead of medium gray for 1/24 of a second will go totally unnoticed.

People who say "My overclocked computer works PERFECTLY!" (I bet they're gamers) may just not be seeing trivial errors. But in the long, linear SETI@home calculation, no errors are trivial. They will create bad results that gum up the works (and may get you blacklisted from the data pool).

Think a minute. If your CPU chip was sure NEVER to make an error at the faster speed, don't you think Intel would sell it at that speed?

Alan MacRobert
Senior Editor
Sky & Telescope

I do recall a period of time when Motorola couldn't supply 400MHz G3s, so they took their 533MHz stock and underclocked them.

In addition to cascaded error, my concerns are that (1) overclocking brings overheating and (2) how high. For instance, it's one thing to boost a 65SC816 from 2.8MHz to 14MHz, but it's a completely different ball game if you want to push from 3GHz to 6GHz. The ][gs could feasibly run much faster than it was designed and there's a good amount of air inside the case. But modern systems are so intricate (on the mobo) and cases have such poor ventilation-design (overall) that overclocking is not quite as feasible as it used to be.

Anyone who wants to overclock, understands the risks, and is willing to take the possible side-effects (read: RIP CPU) should, but don't expect a nearly-free speed miracle. I've seen good mobos shot to hell because some yutz demanded an additional 1MHz from a 75MHz machine .o0(It worked fine until he passed 80MHz - 12ns RAM did him in. His box started billowing smoke...) I seem to recall there was a switch that one could install that would make the CPU speed variable. Once you found out the sweet spot, you'd go out and install a new, higher clock.

Perhaps someone can suggest ways of testing an overclocked system.
.o0(I just make a machine return 10,000 ditigs of π using echo "4*a(1)" | bc -l)

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> But modern systems
> are so intricate (on the mobo) and cases have such poor ventilation-design
> (overall) that overclocking is not quite as feasible as it used to be.

The limitations are due to the simple laws of physics. The components in CPUs are made on such small scale that electron leakage is a significant problem. To get a good overclock on a CPU you need to up the voltage, resulting in even more leakage & considerably more heat than if there wasn't such leakage.
Hence the need for extreme cooling measures.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I'd forgotten about that! I was thing more about the time between state transitions and data traffic noise between the 10%-90% voltages.

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> > > Get on the alpha/beta projects and post about them there
> > > or get on the boinc_dev mailing list.
> >
> > Where and how?
>
> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/community.php
>
The Beta project is being ignored mostly (some of us look in occasionally to look for lost souls). The Alpha project mailing lists are by invitation only.

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Hi

Thanks John.
Thats exactly the point why i posted it here.
I am sure at the reasons to use an alpha client, but i think it was more difficult on Beta and there are allways people who want to try the newest versions.
BTW i´m running 4.57 about the last week without any errors or crashes.

greetz Mike

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

One of the tools used to test an overclocked computer stability is Prime95
Run it for 24-48 hours and if the computer doesnt return a single error, then your computer is ok. Google it up

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> BTW i´m running 4.57 about the last week without any errors or crashes.
>
> greetz Mike
>
>
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since 3 days it (4.57) runs as it should (only a few little "buggies"(messages)). On HT it loads without "pushing" now correctly. If there is a possibility to "merge" 4.56 with 4.57; you will get a near "perfect client".
toi,toi,toi for the future

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ive been running 4.57 since the day it came out. no problems here except that when
they made the suspend project feature they forgot to make it suspend said projects rpc ability. so you can suspend the work but you can still get hit with new wus that you don't want. they said that will be fixed in 4.58.

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Does 4.57 allow you to install the boinc_cli as a windows service?

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Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....

> Does 4.57 allow you to install the boinc_cli as a windows service?
>

v4.13 does that

Just run boinc_cli with the "-install" switch.

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> Does 4.57 allow you to install the boinc_cli as a windows service?
>
Yes, 4.56 is the only 4.x or 3.x that I know of that did not allow this.

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BOINC WIKI

> > Does 4.57 allow you to install the boinc_cli as a windows service?
> >
>
> v4.13 does that
>
> Just run boinc_cli with the "-install" switch.
>

Where should I enter this? under Windows->run? Is the client then visible?

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> > > Does 4.57 allow you to install the boinc_cli as a windows service?
> > >
> >
> > v4.13 does that
> >
> > Just run boinc_cli with the "-install" switch.
> >
>
> Where should I enter this? under Windows->run? Is the client then visible?
>
>
>
I've just learned to do this myself.

Stop the Boinc GUI running first.
Start a DOS box - change directory to c:/program files/boinc
run "boinc_cli -install"
delete the boinc gui from the startup folder.

I personally had a problem with the service starting up, I had to change the service logon to local system account.

The client won't be visible anymore. You can't run the BOINC gui at the same time as the service, I believe. You can see it's running from the task manager. Best to install BOINC View, then you will be able to interact with it properly.

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You should uninstall the previous version before installing 4.57, your wu shouldn't be deleted.
There is no boinc_cli in 4.57.
It must be left over from a previous version.
When you install 4.57 you have the option to install Boinc as a service.
You can close the Boincmanger and check the task manager and see the projects app should still be running.

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Fred
BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha

@Everette Dobbins
> I have a question for you. I just got a Pentium 4- Prescott 478 socket. I ran
> it for 1 Day at regular speed. Today I over clocked it 5% it looked like
> everything was going good. I turned off the monitor and ate dinner when I
> turned on the monitor to see my progrees the boinc client message said that I
> had exceeded my daily quota of Units. I had a Prescott 3.2Ghz in this
> Motherboard over clocked at 3600Ghz from day 1 of running BOINC. The Mb is
> Asus P4P800 Deluxe. Ram Is OCZ-PC-4200/512Ram its in a thermaltake 1000 series
> case with 3 added fans and a thermaltake heat sink with a 6000RPM fan. I
> detached and reatached and 3 minutes into a wu it would send 100% complete. So
> I went back to regular no overclock. I am running XP Pro OS. I had read in one
> of your posts you had a system overclocked 3800Ghz+. All my Comps are
> overclocked never had this problem. Have you had this problem?

The message "Daily quota exceeded" says it all, doesn't it? Your computer tried to download more than the maximum allowed 50 WUs within 24 hours. If this happened because the WU refill was actually needed, the reason was probably that the OC'ed computer had grown too fast for the project's anticipations. It didn't malfunction, in other words. I had the same problem once, more info here: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7244

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