Very European and primitive thinking.

Not necessarily Clyde...

Think about it.

When someone uses the term MASSES: Does he believe he is one of the MASSES? IE: "As one of the masses...". Of course not. This person believes he is above/superior to The Masses. IE: Elite. Why? Possibly because of Bloodlines, Intellect, Education, etc. This is very European thinking from way, way, way back.

American thinking is that Power, and The Right to Control, is just that: POWER. Not any (by American Thinking) sense of personal superiority over The Masses. A term, for good reason, that is rarely used in the US.

Oh you mean that Americans never think themselves above anyone else? You mean that Americans don't have personal egos that make them put themselves above everyone else?

Well to the first you are living proof of the contrary, given how you constantly are setting yourself and America in general above everyone else. Just look how you once again turned Europe into a monoculture with (according to you) backward thinking.

The second, well I just find that difficult to believe. Doesn't seem reasonable to claim that Americans don't have egos and that some have such enormous egos that they have no problem with putting themselves above everyone else. For one, the writer of the American bible, Ayn Rand was someone who did that. So did some of her admirers like von Hayek. But I suppose you don't want to count them because they were all born in Europe, so its just remains of all that backward European thinking. But given her popularity, I'd say that many Americans have absolutely no problem with people who put themselves above others.

Oh please, America has its own elitists thinkers. Its fine, every country has them. In America you will find them at Ivy league schools, in gentrified neighborhoods, and upper class areas. Hipsters, rich people, etc, plenty of them think they are better than everyone else because they like obscure bands or because they have a load more money than everyone else.

Hell, America even built its culture around it. Capitalism is inherently elitist. It praises those who are rich and successful and puts them on a pedestal, while everyone who isn't rich, the so called masses', are losers. This according to capitalism creates incentives for people to strive to improve themselves by working hard and climbing the corporate ladder.

Oh please, America has its own elitists thinkers.

True, Berkeley is is a prime example.

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Yes we have elitists, who we allow to live/work in their Monastery's, AKA Liberal Arts University's. They do believe they are Superior. But, no one else does.

Unlike Europe. American Ideals stem from the Culture/People. Not from these fools.

Capitalism is about Money/Power. Not Superiority.

You still don't get it.

Ahhh..good old anti-intellectualism. Finally you reveal the truth about yourself!

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Or are you one of The Masses/Peasants?

Commoner is the term. They are not equal to the peers.

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Or are you one of The Masses/Peasants?

Commoner is the term. They are not equal to the peers.

One's peers are those equivalent to you.

Unless you are one of the 0.0001%'ers you, like me, are one of the great unwashed peons.

One's peers are those equivalent to you.

You know very well I meant peerage. You people have the great unwashed and peers. The US of A Constitution forbids a peerage and a state religion. You people must not have set a good example for US to make a supreme law to keep US from becoming another you.

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One's peers are those equivalent to you.

You know very well I meant peerage. You people have the great unwashed and peers. The US of A Constitution forbids a peerage and a state religion. You people must not have set a good example for US to make a supreme law to keep US from becoming another you.

Then why did you use the Magna Carta as a source for your constitution and still use our Common Law.

British Library to show Declaration of Independence

Yes we have elitists, who we allow to live/work in their Monastery's, AKA Liberal Arts University's. They do believe they are Superior. But, no one else does.

Unlike Europe. American Ideals stem from the Culture/People. Not from these fools.

Capitalism is about Money/Power. Not Superiority.

You still don't get it.

A boost about how superior you are is easily dispelled if it turns out you have nothing to show for it. Money and power are ways in which you can set yourself above others, because its something you have and everyone else doesn't.

Again, this has nothing to do with Europe or America. Every country in the world has it. It simply happens in a scarcity based system.

I'm afraid the only person not getting anything is you.

Quite true. And thank you for the compliment.

When being called a stupid idiot becomes a compliment, you know you have the foundations for Fascism to function. Oh well, its hardly a surprise.

Quite true. And thank you for the compliment.

When being called a stupid idiot becomes a compliment, you know you have the foundations for Fascism to function. Oh well, its hardly a surprise.

Its actually a quite disturbing. He is in good company though. The first people that dictators go for are the teachers and the intellectuals. For good reason, because they are the ones that aren't so easily misled.

Maybe he doesn't realise he shares the same views as the likes of Pol Pot?

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Pol Pot? He ended up mass murdering The Masses/Peasants. I guess without self-described Intellectuals, and my wife (a teacher): The Masses/Teacher's aren't protected?

You have a fascinating thought process.

Actually no. Pol Pot ended up killing all the intellectuals and city folk. You see, he was convinced that intellectuals, or the bourgeoisie, are the reason there is oppression and capitalism. His ideal society was one run by farmers. Basically he wanted to turn the country in one big country side, and to do so he needed to get rid of the middle class and intellectuals, basically everyone living a city.

Kinda like what you've been claiming about intellectuals putting themselves above the masses and how thats bad.

You, and many in Europe, are still stuck in the I Am Intellectual - Therefore I Am Superior silliness.

Only pseudo-intellectuals do that and the States has them too, just like 'the rest' of the world.

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I am ordinary people. I was nor ever will I be more than lower middle class. Back in 1973 as an E-4 in the USAF I actually was on food stamps to help feed my family. I think its a damn shame that folks have to go on food stamps to feed a family when they are working full time.

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I am ordinary people. I was nor ever will I be more than lower middle class. Back in 1973 as an E-4 in the USAF I actually was on food stamps to help feed my family. I think its a damn shame that folks have to go on food stamps to feed a family when they are working full time.

That is back when the military had slaves.

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Capitalism has been and will continue to be embraced by the whole world. China has accepted it. India has accepted it, and many other countries that even include South Africa.

Capitalism has brought more people out of slavery and the poor house then any other system made by man. Bottom line...

The ONLY people who don't believe that is the elitist FAR LEFT of academia.

Fact's , just the facts are all that is needed to defeat your stupidity...

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

Just ask the People of China if they would rather live under Marxism, or the 19th Century Capitalism they now are.

Hopefully, their Capitalism will evolve into something like present day Western Europe. That would NEVER happen under Marxism/State Control.

Only if they unionise. I am not sure what the answer would actually be if you asked them.

State Capitalism has been just another form of oppression for them and they are basically slave labour. It does look like Capitalism does need slave labour to work. They've just taken the slavery out of sight of the consumers so you don't realise it any more. :/

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I am ordinary people. I was nor ever will I be more than lower middle class. Back in 1973 as an E-4 in the USAF I actually was on food stamps to help feed my family. I think its a damn shame that folks have to go on food stamps to feed a family when they are working full time.

That is back when the military had slaves.

Please tell me how I was a slave.

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I am ordinary people. I was nor ever will I be more than lower middle class. Back in 1973 as an E-4 in the USAF I actually was on food stamps to help feed my family. I think its a damn shame that folks have to go on food stamps to feed a family when they are working full time.

That is back when the military had slaves.

Please tell me how I was a slave.

You weren't, only the Army and Marines had conscripts. OK I wasn't a slave, I got paid $1,000 a year and all the C-rations I could carry.

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This is not a choice between good/bad. Only between mass murdering Marxism/State Control, and 19th Century Capitalism.

State control does not equal mass murder. But, 19th century capitalism does equal slavery for the majority of people. There is a reason we changed that system to something that involved a lot more state control.