Haswell E CPUs are been released in September US/October (at a rough guess New Zealand) of this year.

This is the first line of Intel CPUs that have 8 cores's/16 thread's these will also be the first CPUs that support DDR 4 ram, I believe the motherboards are going to be called X 99 series. Here are 3 CPUs in the line up

Who is going to wait for these to be released before building? My plan is to wait until these are released before I build my new machine. I can't see any reason to build now since DDR 4 ram is just around the corner. My build will need to last at least 4 if not 5 years. My current system is just over 4 years old and still going strong a first gen I 7 980 X

---

It will be interesting to see if the prices match the cost of the server parts with the same number of cores. Which they have been selling for quite some time. But they might shift the pricing down with the release of the chips beyond 15 cores.
The 20 cores chips interest me for VM boxes mostly. As far as DDR4 I will wait and see what benchmarks/reviews say to see if it worth it. Mainstream desktops won't be getting DDR4 until Skylake. :/

---

SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[

Interesting, all reading I have done says that the motherboards that support Haswell E will be the first to support DDR 4 ram for desktops. I guess we will just have to wait and see

---

I think HAL means mainstream desktop CPUs in contrast with enthusiast desktop CPUs. For example, current releases are Haswell and Ivy Bridge E respectively.

---

Soli Deo Gloria

If I misunderstood 3 posts down I apologise. I believe the CPU cost is going to be around $1000 US for the high end version. I guess we will have to wait and see not too long to go.

---

I think HAL means mainstream desktop CPUs in contrast with enthusiast desktop CPUs. For example, current releases are Haswell and Ivy Bridge E respectively.

Yeah I was thinking "non E" for "mainstream" DDR4, or better stated socket 115x instead of socket 2011.

Hopefully they will keep their top end enthusiast near the $1000 mark instead of the prices that the Xeon chips demand. Unless AMD can come out with something to cause another price war. I really liked the days of top end chips only costing around $300.

I wonder how long it will be before more cores start getting added to the lower end chips. Like 8c/8t i5's.

---

SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[

This question is slightly off topic but still to do with CPUs. Has anyone got a Devil's Canyon 4790K? These are stock clock at 4.0 GHz. Am just interested to see what performance is like?

---

This question is slightly off topic but still to do with CPUs. Has anyone got a Devil's Canyon 4790K? These are stock clock at 4.0 GHz. Am just interested to see what performance is like?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/30/review_intel_devils_canyon_cpu/

---

Thanks Ivan. I guess it will just be a matter of time until we see them crunching Seti

---

If anybody is going to be testing one of these machines/CPUs before they hit the market & you're allowed to let me know I would be very grateful to see what numbers they produce.

---

If anybody is going to be testing one of these machines/CPUs before they hit the market & you're allowed to let me know I would be very grateful to see what numbers they produce.

I think they will produce mostly 1's and 0's.

---

SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[

I'm planning to build a computer to hold four video cards.

I looked into AMD but I can't find anything with four PCI-E 3.0 x16 slots. I don't need the PCI-E 3.0 bandwidth and I don't game, but I want to be able to try four way crossfire through the PCI-E bus and not have PCI-E 2.0 be a bottleneck.

Ivy bridge-e sounds good because of the extra PCI-E lanes and I have extra DDR3 RAM laying around but the motherboards don't seem cutting edge anymore and haswell-e is just around the corner.

Haswell-e would have me buying DDR4 RAM which is slightly more expensive than reusing extra DDR3 RAM I already have. My personal opinion (which could be wrong) is that my number crunching is not very demanding of memory bandwidth as I only do GPU work. Eight cores would be great for eight video cards but I don't want server noise levels in my cubicle. I remember being an early sandy bridge adopter when intel recalled the chipsets due to a bug that primarily showed up when using a ton of SATA devices. I even ran a bunch of drives for a while but having just one SSD was much faster.

I know there are also some multi-socket setups but I won't have a server chassis in my cube.

So I think I'm set on devil's canyon. All I really need is an i5 but I like the idea of having a base 4GHz stock clock and possibly getting close to 5GHz with a lucky sample. A multiplexor creates the PCI-E lanes but at least they're still 3.0. I already have the RAM. Four cores might seem light but I like the idea of going back to one WU per card and tuning to increase utilization.

If anybody is going to be testing one of these machines/CPUs before they hit the market & you're allowed to let me know I would be very grateful to see what numbers they produce.

I think they will produce mostly 1's and 0's.

Very good :) I am sure people are aware I was meaning how much credit the cores/threads produce per task

---

If anybody is going to be testing one of these machines/CPUs before they hit the market & you're allowed to let me know I would be very grateful to see what numbers they produce.

Other than for Virtual Machine hardware and Database work (I haven't kept up with DB software so I don't know if there is any out there that can make use of GPUs) there's not much advantage in having more than 4 cores on the desktop if there is an application that will run on a GPU.
If you've got an application that can't use a GPU, then that's the only time more than 4 cores will be of any real benefit (if that application can make use of them of course).

I've got 2 systems, both have the same number & type of video card.
One is a C2D E6600 & the other an i7 2600k.
The i7 does crunch a whole lot more WUs than the C2D, but with the low amount of credit paid for MB, and the fact that the video cards crunch a whole lot more, the difference in RAC between the machines is only 2,000 or so.

For general home use these days you're better off with the fastest Quad Core system you can get, and just load it up with video cards if you want to crunch Seti (or other projects).

---

Grant
Darwin NT

If anybody is going to be testing one of these machines/CPUs before they hit the market & you're allowed to let me know I would be very grateful to see what numbers they produce.

I think they will produce mostly 1's and 0's.

Very good :) I am sure people are aware I was meaning how much credit the cores/threads produce per task

hehe I know. The i7-5960X is slated to run $999 USD for the chip alone. So I do not see one of those in my future any time soon.
Maybe a kickstarter could be used to fund building such a system. After a guy made nearly $56,000 for potato salad anything is possible.

---

SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[

I've read that the base 5820K Haswell-E has only 28 pcie lanes, 40 lanes are available with the 5930K and 5960X cpus.

---

The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

Saw this yesterday - http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/cheapest-haswell-e-cpu-will-cost-little-more-then-a-4970.html

---

I don't buy computers, I build them!!

Saw this yesterday - http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/cheapest-haswell-e-cpu-will-cost-little-more-then-a-4970.html

The 4970 has 16 lanes,
the 5820 has 28 lanes.

Same price, better value cpu, I'd get it, if I were going to X99.

I thought the 4970 had 40, wrong, My bad.

---

The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

I've read that the base 5820K Haswell-E has only 28 pcie lanes, 40 lanes are available with the 5930K and 5960X cpus.

Thanks for all the information I think I will be going with the 5960 X as it has 8 cores and 16 thread's

---

If you are going to build a Haswell E machine what way would you go?

For the motherboard I would like to use an Asus deluxe X 99 Does this support the Asus RAMdisk feature that allows you to make a RAMdisk with in the memory and it will save before you to the computer off?
CPU preferably the 8 core 5960 X although I am not sure how these will go heat wise
Preferably and 980 or 970 Nvidia card I already have a ATI 7970 which I will spot into my new machine
16 gig of at least 2800 MHz ram
Windows 8
Samsung 840 SSD of some description +2 1 TB black Western digital hard drives for programs and storage
case something with good air flow and looks nice
Screen something in the 20 to 22 inch range
and I was thinking of Blu-ray drive of some description
if I have missed anything out out to make a complete system please add it in
Was thinking 750 W power supply if big enough to power the above


This is just an idea at the moment so I can get an idea on pricing and talking New Zealand dollars

I will be using the computer mainly for Boinc projects and may be a little bit of gaming I want to get the most efficiency out the CPU and GPU I run my computer for about 12 hours a day.

thanks for ideas

---