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Message 1496834 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 21:10:53 UTC

Friday night is movie night. Last week we went to see Divergent and we took my boy along because even thought its technically our date night because he liked the books.

Tonight it looks like we'll be seeing Noah as there are no other movies out that we haven't seen yet.

I am sure it will terrible, in fact the last two Russell Crowe movies have been terrible, so my expectations are not high. It can't be worse than Les Miserables which sits with the Pokemon movie as one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I am hoping Russell won't be singing in this one.

Already the movie looks to be controversial: ‘Noah’: Twitter conservatives outraged that film deviates from Bible’s original English and How Russell Crowe's Noah united two religions – against it so that should make it more interesting. I was amused to see stacks of the book "Noah" in the bookstore and thinking, wasn't it already a book?

I shall let you know more after we get back from the movie later tonight.

Next week I think we will be seeing Captain America.
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Message 1496836 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 21:14:30 UTC - in response to Message 1496834.  

Oh please tell me the last terrible Russell Crowe movie was Man of Steel! Please!? I really want to go on a nerd rage induced rant about that one! :-)


I'm also thinking about going out to see Noah. I wanted to see Pompeii too... gonna have to check to see if it's still in theatres.
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Message 1496839 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 21:16:10 UTC

I read something recently in The New Yorker about the Noah movie. Something about Russell Crowe complaining about his eyes getting wet in the rain, lol.
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Message 1496840 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 21:19:42 UTC - in response to Message 1496839.  

You mean they still use real rain? :-P
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Message 1496841 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 21:20:47 UTC - in response to Message 1496836.  

Oh please tell me the last terrible Russell Crowe movie was Man of Steel! Please!? I really want to go on a nerd rage induced rant about that one! :-)


I'm also thinking about going out to see Noah. I wanted to see Pompeii too... gonna have to check to see if it's still in theatres.

oh he was in that? That makes the last three Russell Crowe movies being awful. I must have blanked out his part in that.

The other one I saw was called "Winter's Tale". They took a really good book, gutted it, stuck Colin Farrell in it (who I hate) and then made it weird and boring. It was really bad. Don't see it. Read the book, but don't see the movie.

Feel free to go on about how awful Man of Steel was. I did not like that movie.
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Message 1496842 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 21:21:07 UTC - in response to Message 1496839.  

I read something recently in The New Yorker about the Noah movie. Something about Russell Crowe complaining about his eyes getting wet in the rain, lol.

Was it filmed in Vancouver?
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Message 1496852 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 21:46:55 UTC - in response to Message 1496841.  
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oh he was in that? That makes the last three Russell Crowe movies being awful. I must have blanked out his part in that.


Yeah, he played Kal-El's (Superman's) father, Jor-El.


Feel free to go on about how awful Man of Steel was. I did not like that movie.


lol I've been sitting here for like the last 15 minutes trying to figure out how to start my rant, and I'm not sure how much time I have left in the day. :-)


Maybe if I have time later, I can do a full fledged rant, but for now I just want to say that, as a huge Superman and Batman fan, I was really looking forward to the reboot of the Superman franchise, and I was really hoping to see some exploration into Superman's character that we haven't seen before. Maybe something about the pressures he faces being the most powerful superhero of all time. Maybe some exploration into how alienated he feels as he's not really human... not one of us, yet he fights for us and does what he can to save as many of us as he can. Maybe even throw in the emotional pressure of not being able to save everyone he wants to, because even though he's powerful, he simply cannot be everywhere at once. Throw in some population reactions to increase the drama with Pro- and Anti-Superman sentiments. Really dig deep into the character and make the audience feel what the hero feels.

You know, like a good movie would try to do.

Instead all we got was a bunch of jumbled scenes out of chronological order that made very little sense; actions that made zero sense in the context of the character; absolutely no character development at all, nothing that made us feel what the hero feels, nor any real insight into what's going on in his mind; the first 30-45 minutes of the film should have been technically a completely different film (they were trying to do The Last Son of Krypton storyline)...

... I could go on, but I need to end there. I was so terribly let down and disappointed. My hope was that since they were enlisting the direction of Chris Nolan, from the recent Batman trilogy, that the movie was going to be very well done in story, but instead we got the opposite!

I'd really like to go kick Chris Nolan in the pants right about now. Grr. More rant to come if I can find the time... lol
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Message 1496986 - Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 4:48:57 UTC - in response to Message 1496852.  

oh he was in that? That makes the last three Russell Crowe movies being awful. I must have blanked out his part in that.


Yeah, he played Kal-El's (Superman's) father, Jor-El.


Feel free to go on about how awful Man of Steel was. I did not like that movie.


lol I've been sitting here for like the last 15 minutes trying to figure out how to start my rant, and I'm not sure how much time I have left in the day. :-)


Maybe if I have time later, I can do a full fledged rant, but for now I just want to say that, as a huge Superman and Batman fan, I was really looking forward to the reboot of the Superman franchise, and I was really hoping to see some exploration into Superman's character that we haven't seen before. Maybe something about the pressures he faces being the most powerful superhero of all time. Maybe some exploration into how alienated he feels as he's not really human... not one of us, yet he fights for us and does what he can to save as many of us as he can. Maybe even throw in the emotional pressure of not being able to save everyone he wants to, because even though he's powerful, he simply cannot be everywhere at once. Throw in some population reactions to increase the drama with Pro- and Anti-Superman sentiments. Really dig deep into the character and make the audience feel what the hero feels.

You know, like a good movie would try to do.

Instead all we got was a bunch of jumbled scenes out of chronological order that made very little sense; actions that made zero sense in the context of the character; absolutely no character development at all, nothing that made us feel what the hero feels, nor any real insight into what's going on in his mind; the first 30-45 minutes of the film should have been technically a completely different film (they were trying to do The Last Son of Krypton storyline)...

... I could go on, but I need to end there. I was so terribly let down and disappointed. My hope was that since they were enlisting the direction of Chris Nolan, from the recent Batman trilogy, that the movie was going to be very well done in story, but instead we got the opposite!

I'd really like to go kick Chris Nolan in the pants right about now. Grr. More rant to come if I can find the time... lol

I think we all thought it would be a darker, but you are right, there was no real depth to the characters and I really couldn't bring myself to give a rats arse about them or their motivations. Normally in comic book movies you have to turn a blind eye to the laws of physics being bent or ignored, but the whole thing was rubbed in our faces so badly that I just couldn't suspend disbelief.

Then it just degenerated into a huge macho fight that destroyed a city. I didn't feel that Superman was saving anyone which is what we want him to do, he was behaving like a stupid destructive little boy and I wasn't impressed.

Overall I didn't get any sense that we were watching a movie about a superhero at all, let alone one with any depth.
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Message 1496987 - Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 4:54:30 UTC
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OK. I'm back from watching Noah and it was a really weird movie.

It seemed like it couldn't make up its mind if it were a fairy tale, a bible epic, a fantasy movie or an allegory. It had moments of watchablity, but also moments of extreme wtf moments.

There was lots of moralistic stuff about humankind's destruction of the environment, but that was interwoven with the bible stuff that made Noah look like a psychopath. Which I guess is the sense you get about most of the characters on the old testament if you read the book, but I got the feeling the director was trying to reign it back from following the bible in that way because it made it look bad.

Oh, and I was wrong about Russell Crowe not singing in the movie.

The effects were ok, but the movie was just pretty weird overall, and not in a good way.
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Message 1496998 - Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 5:57:16 UTC

...with the bible stuff that made Noah look like a psychopath...

I believe that in the "original", the role of psychopath was played by the big guy upstairs.
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Message 1497017 - Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 6:34:02 UTC - in response to Message 1496998.  

...with the bible stuff that made Noah look like a psychopath...

I believe that in the "original", the role of psychopath was played by the big guy upstairs.

True, killing everyone on the planet isn't exactly the act of a benign being.
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Message 1497073 - Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 9:25:07 UTC

Yeah he gives us free will and then gets bent out shape that we dont cowtow?
Kicks us out of Eden, Floods the Earth, Whats next?
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Message 1497091 - Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 10:18:51 UTC - in response to Message 1497073.  

Yeah he gives us free will and then gets bent out shape that we dont cowtow?
Kicks us out of Eden, Floods the Earth, Whats next?

Well, the rainbow is His promise that He won't do that again.

But there was Fire and Brimstone for Sodom and Gomorrah, and all the plagues on Egypt. Somehow, since Christ, I don't think we have to worry, the next End of the World will be for keeps.
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Message 1497544 - Posted: 30 Mar 2014, 18:48:48 UTC - in response to Message 1497091.  

Box Office.

1. Noah $44,000,000
2. Divergent $26,500,000
3. Muppets Most Wanted $11,373,000
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Message 1500036 - Posted: 5 Apr 2014, 5:35:02 UTC

Well tonight's move was Captain American, The Winter Solider.

It was definitely better than Noah. There was explosions, and fighting, heros leaping all over the shop. It was very enjoyable and I think I liked it better than the first Captain America.

The themes explored in the movie were "how we are giving up our freedom in name of freedom". So that is where I situate it in the current Zeitgeist. Some subthemes were the concerns about global instability and also a little nod to the difficulties US Vets have to deal with on returning from conflict.

It was nice to see such strong roles for black characters. However I am pretty sure it failed the Bechdel test. I am not completely sure because I was caught up in the action, so I may have missed it. If Joss Whedon had been involved I am sure that wouldn't have happened.

All in all good non-intellectual fun.
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Message 1500047 - Posted: 5 Apr 2014, 6:27:24 UTC

ES I sure hope you have not ruined the movie for me by my trying to find the Bechdel test.

The wife and I are going to see it Saturady afternoon.

And im glad you didnt give any spoilers:)
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Message 1500050 - Posted: 5 Apr 2014, 6:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 1500047.  

ES I sure hope you have not ruined the movie for me by my trying to find the Bechdel test.

The wife and I are going to see it Saturady afternoon.

And im glad you didnt give any spoilers:)

I'll try not to do that, James.

Unless Russell Crow or Hugh Jackman are singing in it, then I will give you a heads up.
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Message 1500078 - Posted: 5 Apr 2014, 7:18:48 UTC - in response to Message 1500050.  

And im glad you didnt give any spoilers:)

I'll try not to do that, James.

Unless Russell Crow or Hugh Jackman are singing in it, then I will give you a heads up.

So you're saying if they were in a musical, we should avoid it?
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Message 1500470 - Posted: 6 Apr 2014, 1:07:22 UTC

Well ES Id say that it might have passed the test. Think back to where the one Female agent in the truck whacked the guard. I cant remeber if the black widow and her talked. Also when they arrived at where you know who said its about damn time you got here.

But to tell the truth with all the action going on I forgot to look for the test:) I will buy the movie when it comes out and then watch it more closely.

Did you stay untill after the main credits and see the teaser clip they show?

I like this movie and so did my wife. We try and find Stan Lee doing a cameo also. And dinner at the Red Lobster was fabulous. We both had a great day.
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Message 1500480 - Posted: 6 Apr 2014, 1:30:49 UTC - in response to Message 1500470.  

Well ES Id say that it might have passed the test. Think back to where the one Female agent in the truck whacked the guard. I cant remeber if the black widow and her talked. Also when they arrived at where you know who said its about damn time you got here.

But to tell the truth with all the action going on I forgot to look for the test:) I will buy the movie when it comes out and then watch it more closely.

Did you stay untill after the main credits and see the teaser clip they show?

I like this movie and so did my wife. We try and find Stan Lee doing a cameo also. And dinner at the Red Lobster was fabulous. We both had a great day.

We did stay until the end and saw the teaser trailer. We know to do that in Avengers movies. :D

The Stan Lee cameo was pretty obvious this time. Sometimes it is not so easy to spot. Some other little touches amused me, like the inscription on the tombstone at the end.
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