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David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
This thread is for commentary on transportation safety incidents and is intended for people who don't want to go to Politics (but that means you have to keep politics out of this thread). I'll start it off with News helicopter crashes in Seattle, 2 dead. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Not always possible I'm afraid for 4 simple reasons: - A) Safety Concerns B) Security Concerns C) Financial Concerns D) Political Concerns Also, cannot understand as to why thread no 1 was messed with as it was an excellent thread. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Not always possible I'm afraid for 4 simple reasons: - Yes it was. I know we can't keep politics entirely out of here, but let's try to keep it to a minimum, especially the arguing. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Saw the Seattle crash on the news earlier, anything further on that? |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Saw the Seattle crash on the news earlier, anything further on that? Doesn't seem to be anything substantial. The offices of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation are a quarter mile away, for what little that's worth. Okay, KOMO has identified the people on board. More detailed article. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Well we've had Tesco's making an excellent home delivery so the Royal Mail just had to go one better...... Sorry Sir, the packet was too large to fit in your letterbox ...so thought it best to....... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22216 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
....and we thank Royal Mail for delivering the extra radiator directly to our lounge..... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
....and we thank Royal Mail for delivering the extra radiator directly to our lounge..... ROFLMAO.... ...and fitting it free of charge. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34830 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Train horror in France as cyclist’s body carried 40km before anyone noticed. http://www.news.com.au/world/train-horror-in-france-as-cyclists-body-carried-40km-before-anyone-noticed/story-fndir2ev-1226857488211 THE body of a cyclist hit by one of France’s high-speed TGV trains was embedded into the front of the driver’s carriage and carried 40 kilometres before anyone noticed. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Every time I read stories like that, I'm dumbfounded. I love cycling. Also in my younger days, enjoyed motorcycling. I hold all licenses from a car up to a 44 ton articulated truck and also driven trains. Just wondering if he was listening to an mp3 player as I see this constantly every day. If he was then a candidate for a Darwin award! |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34830 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I guess that he won't make that mistake again. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Train horror in France as cyclist’s body carried 40km before anyone noticed. Does the TGV have level crossings in areas where it goes at its maximum speed? Or would he have to have been hit at "normal" speed? In the US, there can't be crossings where trains go faster than 110 MPH. (Or, to put that the other way, trains can't go faster than 110 where there are crossings.) David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22216 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
No, but they do have level crossings on the low speed line, and that service runs on both "high speed" and "conventional" tracks, so actual collision may well have been on a conventional section. Unless the cyclist was trespassing on a high speed line (which isn't unknown....) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
No, but they do have level crossings on the low speed line, and that service runs on both "high speed" and "conventional" tracks, so actual collision may well have been on a conventional section. Unless the cyclist was trespassing on a high speed line (which isn't unknown....) That's what I figured. But the article does say they found his bike at a crossing. I suppose that's how they know how far he was carried on there. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34830 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
No, but they do have level crossings on the low speed line, and that service runs on both "high speed" and "conventional" tracks, so actual collision may well have been on a conventional section. Unless the cyclist was trespassing on a high speed line (which isn't unknown....) That's what they're working on, but who's to say that the bike itself wasn't carried for some distance as well. Cheers. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
At that speed wouldnt a body hitting the train at least make a noise? Now I believe that also at that speed just turning you head for a moment might make you miss seeing a person on the track. [/quote] Old James |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22216 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The TGV/AVG driving cabs have very good sound insulation, particularly against "below floor level" noises. Also it sounds as if it was a low speed impact, so there wouldn't be much noise. And (and this bit concerns me most) during station departure and low speed running the driver is very much "head down" watching the signalling display, which is constantly giving him target, limit and real speed info. This is because in-cab not line side signalling is employed on the vast majority of TGV/AVG operated routes in France. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
The TGV/AVG driving cabs have very good sound insulation, particularly against "below floor level" noises. Also it sounds as if it was a low speed impact, so there wouldn't be much noise. And (and this bit concerns me most) during station departure and low speed running the driver is very much "head down" watching the signalling display, which is constantly giving him target, limit and real speed info. This is because in-cab not line side signalling is employed on the vast majority of TGV/AVG operated routes in France. At 200 MPH, lineside signals would be useless. BOINC WIKI |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22216 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
But at low speed, in locations where there are crossing and low platforms in-cab signalling is probably more dangerous than line-side... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
But at low speed, in locations where there are crossing and low platforms in-cab signalling is probably more dangerous than line-side... The switchover either way could be a killer. How about a HUD? BOINC WIKI |
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