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Message 1489906 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 0:28:38 UTC

No, not something written on a placard carried by some crazy or the preaching of a religious cult but by a NSF and NASA funded study.

Nasa-funded study warns of ‘collapse of civilisation’ in coming decades

... the study noted that the elite of society have often pushed for a “business as usual” approach to warnings of disaster until it is too late.
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Message 1489912 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 0:52:19 UTC - in response to Message 1489906.  

No, not something written on a placard carried by some crazy or the preaching of a religious cult but by a NSF and NASA funded study.

Nasa-funded study warns of ‘collapse of civilisation’ in coming decades

... the study noted that the elite of society have often pushed for a “business as usual” approach to warnings of disaster until it is too late.


Hi WinterKnight! How are you?

Haven't read your link yet but will do so after this.

It could just start with candles. :) Last but one power failure in my area (they cut a cable whilst preparing the ground for the olympic stadium) no one could buy any. All tills seem to need electricity nowadays, and automatic doors won't open. Add to that a fear of shoplifters, and no TV to mollify everyone... we had some very angry people roaming the streets. :) And they weren't hungry... yet. :/
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Message 1489921 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 1:31:22 UTC - in response to Message 1489912.  

No, not something written on a placard carried by some crazy or the preaching of a religious cult but by a NSF and NASA funded study.

Nasa-funded study warns of ‘collapse of civilisation’ in coming decades

... the study noted that the elite of society have often pushed for a “business as usual” approach to warnings of disaster until it is too late.


Hi WinterKnight! How are you?

Haven't read your link yet but will do so after this.

It could just start with candles. :) Last but one power failure in my area (they cut a cable whilst preparing the ground for the olympic stadium) no one could buy any. All tills seem to need electricity nowadays, and automatic doors won't open. Add to that a fear of shoplifters, and no TV to mollify everyone... we had some very angry people roaming the streets. :) And they weren't hungry... yet. :/

Hi Annie, I believe that the most common activity when there is a long power outage is to reproduce.

Saw somewhere that you are grad of QMC, I have one niece there at moment, wants to follow daddies footsteps and become a medical doctor, and one who gained her Doctorate there a couple of years ago, now a dentist in the Midlands. I did a year of study at Imp.
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Message 1489926 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 1:52:40 UTC - in response to Message 1489921.  

Hi Annie, I believe that the most common activity when there is a long power outage is to reproduce.


:) They must have wanted candles to find each other then :)

Saw somewhere that you are grad of QMC, I have one niece there at moment, wants to follow daddies footsteps and become a medical doctor, and one who gained her Doctorate there a couple of years ago, now a dentist in the Midlands. I did a year of study at Imp.


I wish them and you well - very useful skills once civilisation bites the dust :)
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Message 1489928 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 1:55:26 UTC

About bloody time.

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Message 1489933 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 2:10:16 UTC

Back to ground zero?
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Message 1489943 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 3:05:38 UTC

Scary. It ssounds like we are heading down the toilet faster that Even the eletists thought. But not to worry,Im sure they have a hidy hole close at hand.
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Message 1489966 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 5:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 1489921.  

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Saw somewhere that you are grad of QMC, I have one niece there at moment, wants to follow daddies footsteps and become a medical doctor, and one who gained her Doctorate there a couple of years ago, now a dentist in the Midlands. I did a year of study at Imp.

You're getting us mixed up. I was the one that graduated from QMC.
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Message 1490049 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 10:10:33 UTC

Gee what a surprise, the top 1% taking all the money while the rest gets nothing is not a sustainable model. Pretty sure that is why Europe became social democratic a century ago. To prevent the income inequality from getting to severe.

That said, I wonder how extensive this collapse would be. Sure, the current system will be torn down, but that doesn't mean we will go back living in caves. Or that we lose running water and electricity and what not. Might just be that we get a regime change, get a group of people who will force income equality and resource sustainability onto the world.
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Message 1490053 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 10:19:02 UTC - in response to Message 1489912.  

and automatic doors won't open.

Our department building has the opposite problem, the doors are held shut by magnetic locks, so if there's a power cut they all open. Good if there's a fire but bad for security.
They relock once the backup generator starts working after about 30 seconds.
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 1490098 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 13:38:27 UTC - in response to Message 1490040.  

no one could buy any. All tills seem to need electricity nowadays, and automatic doors won't open.

I think I'm correct in that all till drawers have a manual release mechanism. Any enterprising shopkeeper could set up a few candles for light and sell some more by taking cash over the counter and ringing it up later when the power comes back. Pubs have been doing that for "afters" for decades! Although you wouldn't want to open a large supermarket with people helping themselves in the dark and sneaking out without paying.




At least here in the USA you have a bigger problem than just getting into the cash register (till as you call it... the manual release is usually with a key). There is sales tax to be figured and added in. The cash registers automatically figures it out. Some items are taxable, some are not. The cash register automatically figures it out from the item barcode. Then there is the matter of the change due the customer. Old phartz like me were taught in school to rapidly 'make change' in our heads, but the kids these days... Totally lost without the cash register telling them how much change to give back to the customer.

Schools these days are way too busy teaching kids crap like 'use a condom' to be able to teach vital life-skills, it seems.
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Message 1490102 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 14:15:31 UTC - in response to Message 1490098.  

Schools these days are way too busy teaching kids crap like 'use a condom' to be able to teach vital life-skills, it seems.

Oh right, because preventing the spread of STD's and unwanted teen pregnancies are things we could go without <_<
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Message 1490124 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 15:27:48 UTC - in response to Message 1490103.  

Look, why don't we just all stop having kids, then we wouldn't have a civilisation to worry about.

Well if your father had those very same thoughts, just think, these boards would be a lot more sensible.
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Message 1490135 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 16:23:46 UTC - in response to Message 1490098.  

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Schools these days are way too busy teaching kids crap like 'use a condom' to be able to teach vital life-skills, it seems.

I'm guessing you skipped that class or you'd have some idea what an important life skill it is.

Controlling fertility and reducing the spread of disease has been one of the things that has caused civilisation to flourish.

During WW1 150,000 British soldiers got either gonorrhea or syphilis while serving in France. I'd say that if they'd been taught to use condoms in school they might have served the war effort a little better.

Currently there are antibiotic resistant strains of these diseases that are becoming more prevalent. So I'd say the kids that can use a condom have a significantly better chance at survival than those that don't.

Worldwide 1,700,000 die of aids every year. Countries with the lowest rates of aids infection are the ones that have been teaching children how to use condoms.

For anyone to say that learning about safe sex is a waste of time in this day and age is a sign of such profound ignorance that no wonder the world is heading for collapse.

Not only am I totally stunned that someone would even say that teaching our youth to be safe and protect others is a waste of time, I am completely gobsmacked that anyone would agree. Are people really so ignorant that I even have to say this?
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Message 1490136 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 16:25:43 UTC - in response to Message 1490103.  

Schools these days are way too busy teaching kids crap like 'use a condom' to be able to teach vital life-skills, it seems.

I would 100% agree with you, but look on the positive side. More condoms, means less divvy kids being produced by divvy parents, taught by teachers wo are more interested in being trendy and with it, then teaching the basics.

You are incredibly insulting.
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Message 1490143 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 16:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 1490138.  

Safe sex is no sex until A) the child becomes a responsible adult and B) the responsible adults enter into a monogamous relationship.

And it's ultimately the parent's responsibility to make this happen.

LMAO.

Spoken by someone who A) has no idea about teenagers and the biological sex drive B) Who expects people to become responsible adults by withholding information from them.

Your method has been shown to not work and cause the highest rate of teenage pregnancies. I really hope you don't have a daughter because I'd be willing to wage money on her being pregnant before she's 18. You've certainly increased the odds for her.

Good luck grandpa.
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