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The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Self-edited. Sirius: Yes i probably would, personally i didn't think it that insensitive, but people on this board have been known to overreact, so i'll remove it before anything gets thrown. I tell you what i'd be doing if my parents had been on that plane: sitting at home waiting for news, while people who know what they're doing far better than i do conduct what i'm sure is a diligent and thorough search. What i wouldn't be doing is shouting at airline staff, crying to the press, and generally causing a nuisance. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
For a graduate, that is an insensitive post. Would you have made it if your parents were aboard that aircraft? Apologies Simonator, I found it insensitive due to the fact that 239 are either missing or dead and with our so called marvellous technological era we live in, 8 days with no sign? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34971 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I doubt that if that was the plan that they'd target a western city, but maybe after a repaint and transponder changes my guess would be, in this case, a Malaysian city or some other city in a country where air space security isn't so good. Also if the plane had gone down in the sea/ocean I reckon that debris would've been found by now as that part of the world has a lot of busy shipping lanes and the debris would've been spread out by currents over a very large area. But it is just speculation. Cheers. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
No. What is the point of terrorism if no one knows that what you did was actually terrorism? Hijacking serves a purpose, namely publicity. You hijack a plane, let the world know you hijacked the plane and then you make demands. Or you blow up the plane in midair and you let the world know that you blew up said plane. So if this was terrorism, then why hasn't anyone claimed responsibility for it yet? I'm not saying its not terrorism, I'm just saying I don't find it likely when there is no one to claim it was terrorism. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I'm not saying its not terrorism, I'm just saying I don't find it likely when there is no one to claim it was terrorism. That's okay if one believes that terrorists are still as dumb as they used to be. However, if this is a new terror tactic, it's a damned highly effective one. Just look at what it is costing for starters.... ....if it broke up at altitude, then wreckage would be strewn over a wide area. However what throws a curve into that is that radar had the aircraft climb to 45000 then back to 23000 feet as well as using evasion maneuverers. If that proves to be the case, then it has landed somewhere, why & for what purpose is anyone's guess, but to rule out terrorism at this stage is naïve. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
I'm not saying its not terrorism, I'm just saying I don't find it likely when there is no one to claim it was terrorism. Im not ruling it out, but to say at this stage with any degree of confidence that it were terrorists is also to soon. And no, a terror attack that leaves everyone wondering if it was a terror attack or an accident is not effective. The idea of terrorism is to spread terror, not confusion about what just happened. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
And no, a terror attack that leaves everyone wondering if it was a terror attack or an accident is not effective. The idea of terrorism is to spread terror, not confusion about what just happened. Really? If it is a new tactic and successfully carried out enough times, would you step aboard an aircraft without any worries? If the answer is yes......... .....or would you be the first to declare the area a "Malayan Triangle?" |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
And no, a terror attack that leaves everyone wondering if it was a terror attack or an accident is not effective. The idea of terrorism is to spread terror, not confusion about what just happened. Terrorists generally do not work on some long term strategy that requires several successful attacks before they are even recognized as terrorism. Besides, hijackings have been around for a while, they are going to need to hijack a lot of planes in a short time span to actually scare people into thinking that planes aren't safe anymore. |
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I would venture to suggest that there may well be secret military radar or satellites that could have picked up the last moments of this flight, but which for obvious reasons, may not be being made public. We just don't know yet. Exactly. US has knOwn frOm Day One. Wat Da US knOws. Aarrrgh. Mind BOogling. yOu dOn't wAnt da Vrold tO knOw. NatSec Man, NatSec. Find Fantasy Island and yOu find... fO shO ' ' May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Id have to say thats probally true. We know that the tsunami warnings and sensors in that part of the world is lacking, And they need it the most. Why would we assume they have state of the art radar and tracking. However that being said The US and the UK maintain bases in the Indian ocean. I would belive that the radars there would track an aircraft from afar. When I was stationed at Shemya AFB Alaska. The phased array radar we had could see from Northern Japan, Well into Russia and the Coast of Alaska itself. It behooves a military installation to know who is in the sky and where they are going. I belive this story hasnt been told yet. [/quote] Old James |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
UK airspace is monitored in real time 24/7 both commercially and militarily. It stems initially from the Cold War where if Russia was going to lob an ICBM at us at 3am in the morning, we'd want to know about it. Since then, flights over the UK and Northern Europe have increased significantly to require careful Air Control. I would agree that military radar installations out there are not likely to be as sophisticated as Europe, but there are spy satellites up there with a resolution of less than 1 metre on the ground. However it seems that they aren't programmed to track stray airliners. Yeah but satellites have to cover an enormous surface. Even with that high resolution it would take a very long time to cover the entire surface of where the plane might have gone down. And if it is indeed crashed into the sea, then by now its probably to late anyways. Satellites are mostly useful if you know where exactly you want to take a peek. And I'm pretty sure South East Asia has good radars as well. Its just that where the plane went that there are not that many radars. Besides, radars have their limitations. If you fly to low the radar can't detect you, and the further you are from a radar source, the longer it takes for each radar sweep to detect you. Assuming a steadily declining descent far away from an active radar source and then you still get a huge area between the last radar contact and possible crash site. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
(CNN) -- New information from the Thai government bolsters the belief that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 took a sharp westward turn after communication was lost. And it looks like that turn was no accident. http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 like looking for a haystack in a needle. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34971 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It seems that a big issue here now is getting data from other governments' satellites in order to try and work out where the plane went as they really don't want others to know who they've been spying on. :-( Another theory out today is that once the plane came across another going in the required direction it has tailgated it so that the 2 planes would appear as 1 on radars. Cheers. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
How many of the hundreds of potential landing sites have been thoroughly searched ?? |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
How many of the hundreds of potential landing sites have been thoroughly searched ?? That part of the search, is uncertain at this time. The search expands to 2.2 million square miles. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
That plane, did probably land on some old abandoned ex military airfield, now controlled by som Jihadist terrorist group. There are hundreds of potential abandoned airfields having enough length to be able to handle a 777, within the reach of the flight in question. As good of guess as any, but no direct evidence to support it so shall put it into the catagory of hypothetical. |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
The big worrying question is that IF the plane did land safely somewhere, what the hell have they done with the 239 people on board? With all that is being stated on this thread, finally someone pulled the rabbit out of the hat. If the aircraft did not disintegrate or hit the water......... Edit: Another worrying report.... Update "Maldivian news outlets have quoted the islanders as saying they saw a low-flying passenger jet at around 6:15 local time (1:15 GMT) on 8 March and that its colours matched those of the missing plane." |
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