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Message 1479480 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 6:10:01 UTC

Apparently 1 in 4 Americans think the sun rotates around the earth. I don't know whether this is related to church dogma or just plain ignorant people. I don't know how to post a link in here but I will try.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/2014/02/17/1-in-4-americans-believe-sun-revolves-around-the-earth/#.UwWbs2JdWSo
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Message 1479482 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 6:16:44 UTC - in response to Message 1479480.  

Apparently 1 in 4 Americans think the sun rotates around the earth. I don't know whether this is related to church dogma or just plain ignorant people. I don't know how to post a link in here but I will try.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/2014/02/17/1-in-4-americans-believe-sun-revolves-around-the-earth/#.UwWbs2JdWSo


Thanks Bob! Made your link clickable. I did read another link about the subject.


1 in 4 Americans think the sun rotates around the earth. That's one thing every American should know.
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Message 1479493 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 6:46:27 UTC

I read about that survey a few days ago (I can't find the article ATM), but it doesn't bode well and the 9 other general science questions didn't fair much better. The average score to the survey was just 6.5 out of 10 for all those who participated.

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Message 1479584 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 11:41:25 UTC

I posted this on fb yesterday, someone commented he presumed they meant under 5 years of age...I once heard a story about how many kids in America think milk cartons grow on trees, quite disconsolate if you ask me... Everybody who gets a proper education should know these things?
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Message 1479585 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 11:41:26 UTC

I posted a link to that survey in Politics : American Vs European Culture II http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74070&postid=1477945
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Message 1479600 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 12:52:28 UTC

I'm pretty sure I knew the earth rotates around the sun while in elementary school and that was in the 1950s. Of course I was always highly interested in math and the sciences but the results of this new study really show how education here in the USA has deteriorated.
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Message 1479606 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 13:14:42 UTC - in response to Message 1479600.  

europe shows the same. some time ago i see similar situation in russia.
i think, there be evolved bit more than "education quality" - in nowadays world general thing is - consumption. about no one interesting about cosmos exploration, astronomy, physics and such things - tv is filfill with more "good" content like a tv shows, reality shows, fashions, politics, olympic hgames and another bullshit.

and third - in theory, any country is interesting, for its people masses be dumb and easy to rule. the dumber - the less question and more easy to manage, drive it.
it be sadly, but in last decades all that gets worse and worse - all things drive more and more simple, general rules is "not need think - simply push that big button,and all be done without your assistancy".
the result we see. and in future all be far more worse....
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Message 1480077 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 9:09:13 UTC

That's more understandable than them milk cartons on trees...
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Message 1480102 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 10:35:55 UTC

about modern education in russia.
sorry, in russian, but i think, it can be translated
http://alekcei.livejournal.com/42556.html
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Message 1480146 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 12:42:44 UTC - in response to Message 1480134.  

as said Schwarz:

95% of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave

and it explains lot of our world and humans, who live in it...
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Message 1480176 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 13:53:03 UTC

What really scares me is that these same people,at least in the USA, vote in elections. But this may be straying to far into politics.

But it is not hard to see why so many people are afraid of the advancements in science and do everything they can to prevent their implementation.
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Message 1480180 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 13:56:55 UTC - in response to Message 1480176.  

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

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Message 1480306 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 17:55:21 UTC

I have to wonder. Were these people just never taught about the solar system or have they chosen not to believe the facts?
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Message 1480313 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 18:07:58 UTC - in response to Message 1480306.  
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i think, that field simply not interest hes. maybe he hear some facts in school, but forget. their everyday interests in in another fields - drinking, look sports games on tv, and so on. sciences is not interest his at all...
the another big question is - why majority not interested in science, in things what work world, what are is building...?
i do not answers there. you self -interesting in physics? have a telescope?
read a popular science books?
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Message 1480316 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 18:13:22 UTC - in response to Message 1480146.  

as said Schwarz:

95% of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave

and it explains lot of our world and humans, who live in it...



95%? My granfather always says men are like sheep, following the herd...
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Message 1480320 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 18:21:16 UTC - in response to Message 1480316.  

as said Schwarz:

95% of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave

and it explains lot of our world and humans, who live in it...



95%? My granfather always says men are like sheep, following the herd...


and what percentage you offer?
as you understand, if you say "100%",then where you get herd? :D
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Message 1480357 - Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 19:28:05 UTC

Apparently 1 in 4 Americans think the sun rotates around the earth. I don't know whether this is related to church dogma or just plain ignorant people.

And Many are Nicer People than any Who Know The Science. I wouldn't ask them if they are Church Goers or Ignorant, nor say it behind their backs.

What's The Point in such a statistic?

So Many Deride Rascism and Bigotry. I don't see The Difference Here.

Hey, just funnin'.

What A Bunch of Uneducated Dumboes, eh?

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Message 1485012 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 20:30:43 UTC

It can't be all that bad as until today, the record was held by an American 14 year old.

13 year old Brit takes record

His next project is a mini hadron collider.....

Good luck to him.
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Message 1485023 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 20:50:27 UTC

It was never my intention to suggest that the education system in the USA can't produce world grade scientists. Brilliant students rise to the top no matter what their environment is. It is sad though that after spending 12 years in the halls of education so many students fail to learn even the basics of science, let alone mathematics and history.
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Message 1485026 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 20:54:17 UTC

You have to find it in the person within I think
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