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Femue Send message Joined: 6 Feb 01 Posts: 132 Credit: 4,673,738 RAC: 1 |
Hi out there, just found this (in german): http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/18/18994/1.html Maybe there is an english version out there, too. Femue |
Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0 |
nice fine @Femue but you also have to look here http://www.umich.edu/news/index.html?Releases/2004/Dec04/r120204 http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1331&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 and here at this Forum http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7172 and for German Users look also here http://www.astronews.com/news/artikel/2004/12/0412-005.shtml and here http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php3?s=&postid=1983291#post1983291 Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 © |
Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0 |
also there is a nice discussion at TPR about this. Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 © |
Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0 |
i have mailed David Anderson to this, but i think SETI Thursday or somethink will give us the Answer. Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 © |
Femue Send message Joined: 6 Feb 01 Posts: 132 Credit: 4,673,738 RAC: 1 |
Hi Sir Ulli, thank you for the other links to this point. I just use to crunch workunits (and still hope to find ETI) but don't care much for the surrounding things - too much work and other interests ... Who is David Anderson? Greetings from Germany NRW, too ;-) Femue |
Thierry Van Driessche Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3083 Credit: 150,096 RAC: 0 |
> Who is David Anderson? He is the director of the S@H project. |
Liberto [Valencia] Send message Joined: 24 Jul 01 Posts: 131 Credit: 29,008 RAC: 0 |
I think that it is probably too early to ask, but I feel it would be great, if the front page for Seti@homeBoinc, would start having something similar to what we had in the old Seti pages, that is - links to other pages where the most important gaussians, pikes, triplets and pulses found so far in the new project would be mentioned. Probably a list of total new SETI-Boinc users by country, so that we can compare, by the time the Old friend seti 1 dissapears, what's the possibility of the moving in into the new seti. I am sorry for my poor construction but I hope I can make myself understood. Regards to all and Merry X'mas and Happy New Year 2005 from Valencia - Spain. Patience is a virtue. |
Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0 |
>regards to all and Merry X'mas and Happy New Year 2005 from Valencia - Spain. and the same here from Good old German may the force be with You... Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 © |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
Hi Liberto, You might want to post a copy of this under Wish List in Q@A General issues/Wish List Happy Holidays Timmy |
Reuben Gathright Send message Joined: 8 Mar 01 Posts: 213 Credit: 14,594,579 RAC: 0 |
I feel SETI should focus it's efforts on analyzing the results rather than displaying member contributions (points/rank). This project has a large queryable results database that should be made available to the public to analyze. Without this interaction, we will be here ten years from now still worrying why Team Lamb Chop has 1,000,000,000,000 WU's and why we still have not found a signal. Overclock with the MSI G31M3-L and Intel E8600 3.33Ghz Intel D865GLC Socket 478 Motherboard ~How To Overclock The Eee ASUS 1005HA Netbook To 1.9Ghz~ |
Dirk Herberich Send message Joined: 11 Oct 99 Posts: 4 Credit: 6,725,563 RAC: 4 |
Hi guys, Well, I wonder if we (S@H and the work-unit contributors) are really just looking for little green men... I wonder how many new pulsars, etc. were found by home-computers by now ;-) Sorry for posting on topic ;-) and greets to "ze Germans" for a fellow German living in Ireland :-). |
Reuben Gathright Send message Joined: 8 Mar 01 Posts: 213 Credit: 14,594,579 RAC: 0 |
> Well, I wonder if we (S@H and the work-unit contributors) are really just > looking for little green men... I wonder how many new pulsars, etc. were found > by home-computers by now ;-) Food for thought, how would you go about finding out if we found any new pulsars with the scientific data we (Seti users) have collected for you? The spikes, gaussians and triplet hits are all stored according to time and coordinates. It would not be hard to conduct basic research for your kind of question with the actual result data. A Transact SQL book, MYSQL DB and a few hours of time would yield some interesting results. For example, I have a DB of 1,500+ results I compiled from my efforts over the past two years. I ported it to a MS Access screensaver that shows random charts of the data every X minutes. Makes for some great coffee break discussions. :) Overclock with the MSI G31M3-L and Intel E8600 3.33Ghz Intel D865GLC Socket 478 Motherboard ~How To Overclock The Eee ASUS 1005HA Netbook To 1.9Ghz~ |
Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0 |
> > Who is David Anderson? > > He is the director of the S@H project. > i get a Mail from David Anderson about this... Ulrich: SETI researchers have known for many years that optimal communication resembles noise, and is therefore hard to detect. This is not news, and I'm not sure why this paper was published recently. Radio SETI projects (like SETI@home) hope to find either a beacon (a signal intended to be heard by us) or a communication signal that is not optimal (like our current TV and radio stations) or a non-communication signal (like radar). -- David Thanks David for your replay Happy Xmas to all of you, and speziall to David Anderson S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 © |
Redshift Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 122 Credit: 1,244,536 RAC: 0 |
This problem, and others like it, is addressed in this book. In the near term, with available human technology, we only have the chance of finding civilizations which are very close, or which want to be found--and are broadcasting an extremely powerfull beacon. www.onlinetasklist.com |
Sir Ulli Send message Joined: 21 Oct 99 Posts: 2246 Credit: 6,136,250 RAC: 0 |
> This problem, and others like it, is addressed in <a> href="http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7557">this > book.[/url] > > In the near term, with available human technology, we only have the chance of > finding civilizations which are very close, or which want to be found--and are > broadcasting an extremely powerfull beacon. > i dont know this Book, but did you read my post carefully >Ulrich: >SETI researchers have known for many years >that optimal communication resembles noise, >and is therefore hard to detect. >This is not news, and I'm not sure why this paper was published recently. >Radio SETI projects (like SETI@home) hope to find >either a beacon (a signal intended to be heard by us) >or a communication signal that is not optimal >(like our current TV and radio stations) >or a non-communication signal (like radar). > > David Greetings from Germany NRW Ulli S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club m7 © |
Redshift Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 122 Credit: 1,244,536 RAC: 0 |
Sir Ulli, I meant to reply to the first post, not to yours in particular, sorry. You and I were saying the same thing, pretty much. The book also supports what you were saying--our best chances are to find some beacon like signal. www.onlinetasklist.com |
CaveRunner Send message Joined: 9 Apr 01 Posts: 3 Credit: 3,324 RAC: 0 |
Apologies for possible offtop, but can anyone tell me why the search is all around of one and the same frequency? Greetings from Rep. of Georgia :) |
Borgholio Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 654 Credit: 18,623,738 RAC: 45 |
> Apologies for possible offtop, but can anyone tell me why the search is all > around of one and the same frequency? > > Greetings from Rep. of Georgia :) > It's a certain frequency that is rather quiet. It other words, there's not too much in the galaxy that uses this specific frequency. So an intelligent species would recognize this, and use that frequency to do their communication. You will be assimilated...bunghole! |
HachPi Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 481 Credit: 21,807,425 RAC: 21 |
> Apologies for possible offtop, but can anyone tell me why the search is all > around of one and the same frequency? > > Greetings from Rep. of Georgia :) > Search the web for "waterhole" and "radioastronomy" you will get the correct answer. Greertz ;-)) |
CaveRunner Send message Joined: 9 Apr 01 Posts: 3 Credit: 3,324 RAC: 0 |
Thanks to your replies, now I've got it clear for myself :) I would rather suggest to listen as well to the mostly used frequencies (quite logical, IMHO), but this will increase the WU amount... huh... I want SETI to be too perfect :) Btw, how are the stats of analysis? Are we in-time or is data amount for analysis growing? Greetings from Rep. of Georgia :) |
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