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Message 51747 - Posted: 6 Dec 2004, 11:37:17 UTC

Sorry at new I found a WU what has 3 success results without "granted" credit, because it is still in "pending"; why when 3 times: success, same version, same state, etc.. ?

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=5425029

I think that results don't match, but which result, where I can get information how "worth" (or valuable) a result is?

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Message 51749 - Posted: 6 Dec 2004, 12:35:27 UTC - in response to Message 51747.  
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> I think that results don't match, but which result, where I can get
> information how "worth" (or valuable) a result is?

You can find some information regarding calculation of credits in this thread: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7031

When it comes to those three mentioned there is a difference. I don't know if it should have any impact on granting or not but 2 of them are crunched using version 4.13 and 1 is crunched with 4.56.

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When I look into my own situation I have a similar case as you: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=5207441. Once again 2 out of 3 using 4.13 whereas 1 using 4.05 could be a coincidence but... and in this case it'll be sent out once again!






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Message 51753 - Posted: 6 Dec 2004, 13:45:41 UTC - in response to Message 51749.  
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> When it comes to those three mentioned there is a difference. I don't know if
> it should have any impact on granting or not but 2 of them are crunched using
> version 4.13 and 1 is crunched with 4.56.
> could be a coincidence but... and in this
> case it'll be sent out once again!

Thanks for your reply, also the link helps me a lot (answer a lot of Q's), but i read it this morning.
I'am "the one" who uses 4.56.

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Message 51759 - Posted: 6 Dec 2004, 14:56:50 UTC

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It doesn´t matter, i´m running 4.56 too and have no results didn´t getting credits granted since it released.

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Message 51766 - Posted: 6 Dec 2004, 17:38:14 UTC - in response to Message 51749.  

> When it comes to those three mentioned there is a difference. I don't know if
> it should have any impact on granting or not but 2 of them are crunched using
> version 4.13 and 1 is crunched with 4.56.

Those are the BOINC core client versions you are referencing. They do not impact the SETI@Home client application, which does the actual crunching of the WU's (and is currently at version 4.08 for WinX86 machines, 4.02 for everyone else).

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Message 51783 - Posted: 6 Dec 2004, 19:27:41 UTC - in response to Message 51747.  
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> Sorry at new I found a WU what has 3 success results without "granted" credit,
> because it is still in "pending"; why when 3 times: success, same version,
> same state, etc.. ?
>
> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=5425029
>
> I think that results don't match, but which result, where I can get
> information how "worth" (or valuable) a result is?
>
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As I wrote: everybody (of this 3 success results) was using 4.08 (see above!, no offense)

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Message 51788 - Posted: 6 Dec 2004, 21:22:21 UTC

I now have a work unit with four 'success' results still all showing 'pending' - looks like that new server code isn't working properley as yet..?

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Message 51811 - Posted: 7 Dec 2004, 2:12:34 UTC - in response to Message 51788.  

> I now have a <a> href="http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1647046">work unit
> with four 'success' results[/url] still all showing 'pending' - looks like that
> new server code isn't working properley as yet..?
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The server-fix was to start generating more results if a wu failed validation, and is working.
The reason for failing validation in the 1st place was no pair of results was found to be "similar enough". If the new result isn't "similar enough" to one of the previously returned, the wu is re-issued again, just like in this example.
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Message 51909 - Posted: 7 Dec 2004, 5:24:48 UTC - in response to Message 51811.  

> The server-fix was to start generating more results if a wu failed validation,
> and is working.
> The reason for failing validation in the 1st place was no pair of results was
> found to be "similar enough". If the new result isn't "similar enough" to one
> of the previously returned, the wu is re-issued again, just like in this
> example.

Sorry but I'm a very curious individual by nature so I just have to ask about "similar enough"! Could you please explain this? Thanks! ;-)
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Message 51972 - Posted: 7 Dec 2004, 12:42:05 UTC - in response to Message 51909.  

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> Sorry but I'm a very curious individual by nature so I just have to ask about
> "similar enough"! Could you please explain this? Thanks! ;-)
>

Two results is "similar enough" if within the error-limits set by the validator.
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