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Message 47252 - Posted: 17 Nov 2004, 3:02:30 UTC

Apparently, there's another group of people about to set up another BOINC-like grid of computers to crunch for science. Read about it here. (sorry, didn't know how to put a link here; here's the whole story)


Top Researchers Ask Web Users to Join Science Grid

By Eric Auchard

NEW YORK (Reuters) - IBM and top scientific research organizations are joining forces in a humanitarian effort to tap the unused power of millions of computers and help solve complex social problems.

The World Community Grid will seek to tap the vast underutilized power of computers belonging to individuals and businesses worldwide and channel it into selected medical and environmental research programs.


Volunteers will be asked to download a program to their computers that runs when the machine is idle and reaches out to request data to contribute to research projects.


Organizers say the Grid can help unlock genetic codes that underlie diseases like AIDS and HIV, Alzheimer's or cancer, improve forecasting of natural disasters and aid studies to protect the world's food and water supply.


The massive volunteer project will be unveiled Tuesday by Sam Palmisano, CEO of International Business Machines Corp. (IBM), the world's largest computer company, along with United Nations officials, researchers from the Mayo Clinic, Oxford University and South Africa, and others.


"This is not just a project for techno-geeks," said Jonathan Eunice, an analyst with research firm Illuminata of Nashua, New Hampshire, who was briefed on the scope of the plan.


The project is designed to handle up to 10 million participants, or more, if demand is greater, IBM said. Details can be found at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/.


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"People really do want to contribute. Not everyone can contribute with dollars," said Linda Sanford, an IBM executive vice president. "This kind of project gives people a way to do just that. They can decide how much to participate."


What amounts to one of the high-tech world's broadest efforts to reach out to individuals is not without its risks.


In particular, the voluntary undertaking could run foul of computer administrators already struggling to keep a tight rein on network security policies in order to ward off viruses.


IBM is lending its name in part to ward off such challenges by seeking to garner top-level business backing for what until now has been largely a grassroots movement among hardcore techies to harness the latent power of machines to do good.


"We are looking for the individual, not the institution, per se, to contribute," Sanford said. "(Companies) will let their employees know when they can participate."


At an event at New York City's Rockefeller University, IBM's CEO will describe the initial research push and introduce some 16 members of the World Community Grid Advisory Board, which will evaluate proposals for future research.


Board member Sibusiso Sibisi of South Africa sees potential for agricultural climate research and pollution control to protect workers in his country's mines.


Sibisi, president of the government-backed Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), an organization of 2,000 public interest science researchers, says such research might never occur if his organization needed to pay for supercomputer-scale computing capacity.


"We will be looking at the sort of projects that one can parcel out into small components," Sibisi said.


The first research will be into Human Proteome Folding, an effort to identify the genetic structure of proteins that can cause diseases. There will be three to five research projects a year, Sanford said.

A 2003 study of smallpox set the stage for the World Community Grid. It is an evolution of the work of Grid.org http://www.grid.org/, which has acted as a clearing house for grid computing projects.

The project owes a debt to SETI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, which in the 1990s first popularized the notion that PC users could donate computer time for radio telescope astronomy data analysis via the Internet.


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Message 47259 - Posted: 17 Nov 2004, 3:46:30 UTC

I don't realy like all this company stuff. Sounds too much like results will be used by somone for profit. If I'm donating my computer resorces than I want results to be free for everyone in the world. This is main criteria for helping out some project (for me at least).

S@H and E@H together with LHC@H is more than enough and at least you are sure what will happen with the results :)
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Message 47289 - Posted: 17 Nov 2004, 7:03:21 UTC

Yeah, I just read this on CNN's website. While helping to find the cure to some disease is a good thing I think... is the main goal really to help some drug company develop a new drug to profit from?

I guess it would depend on how open or closed the results would be.

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Message 47370 - Posted: 17 Nov 2004, 15:03:53 UTC
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I won't be joining. The last thing I want to do is contribute any of my 'free' CPU cycles to large corporate behemoths. IBM is trying to tap into totally free resources all in the name of science when really their true motive is nothing more than the possiblilty of making huge amounts of money down the road. Need I contribute to corporate greed? Isn't there enough of this today without giving my resources to them for free? You will be seeing a lot more of this in the future but corporate based and/or affiliated distributed computing projects will never receive a spare CPU cycle of mine. They have plenty of their own resources and they certainly don't need any of mine provided for free.

For me, my CPU cylces will be given strictly to researchers who really need the help. In other words, those projects that are truly non-profit such as Seti, Gimp's, etc. I simply will not participate in any project where money is the motive behind research.
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Message 47374 - Posted: 17 Nov 2004, 15:12:46 UTC

I am in agreement with this group. I do not want to donate my CPU cycles, (ie higher electric bills and better computer components) just to make money for some corporate CEO who has more than he needs to begin with.
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