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If the total mass of a galaxy is M | |
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M will never change. In no reaction is mass lost or gained. It may be converted to other energy forms which still have mass. I think you are attempting to figure out the potential kinetic energy of the galaxy with that formula | |
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That's right energy and mass are the same as far as equivalency is concerned. | |
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An interesting idea... | |
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Take and example | |
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Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The photon has no rest mass but it does have equivalent mass. Try E=mc^2 and e=h(wavelength) where h is Planck's constant . Solve for m and you will see. | |
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Some say the Uiverse is similar to the Gabriel's Horn Paradox, also called Torricelli's trumpet. i.e. infinite surface area but encloses a finite volume. | |
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My point is, due to the vastness of space, | |
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E=mc^2 ... | |
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Gravity would pull it in. Centrifugal force would push it out. I think the universe is spinning ; about what axis i have no idea. | |
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It is the fact that about 4 million tonnes of matter (mass) are converted to energy every second in the Sun. | |
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Maybe this explain why the speed of galaxy is accelerating? Do you mean the observations that the farthest stars we can see are movving away from us at an increasing rate? | |
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Think of a rapidly rotating carnival ride. They used to have the kind that was like a big cereal bowl. You were pushed up against the sides with considerable force. If you were fixed in the center of the "bowl" you would observe objects moving in a curved line towards the boundary wall if they were in a free situation (not in a track). A thrown ball would appear to you as having a wicked curve. The speed would increase due to acceleration if the object were tethered or restrained (Gravity). | |
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Hmmmmmmm | |
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Hmmmmmmm Perhaps the insight into spin can be equated to that of what occurs within the atom. The atom has it's electron/s spinning around it's nucleus without all these electrons the atom can no longer exists, unless of course it can grab some from somewhere else. Since the atom requires spin of some form to exist so perhaps does matter too. We can then go further up the chain and state that perhaps to exist in a fairly stable state that the universe itself requires spin in some form or other. | |
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Perhaps the insight into spin can be equated to that of what occurs within the atom. The atom has it's electron/s spinning around it's nucleus without all these electrons the atom can no longer exists, unless of course it can grab some from somewhere else. Since the atom requires spin of some form to exist so perhaps does matter too. We can then go further up the chain and state that perhaps to exist in a fairly stable state that the universe itself requires spin in some form or other. Well, even governments need spin to survive! The atom is a basic unit of matter that consists of a dense, central nucleus surrounded by a cloud of negatively charged electrons. The atomic nucleus contains a mix of positively charged protons and electrically neutral neutrons (except in the case of hydrogen-1, which is the only stable nuclide with no neutrons). The electrons of an atom are bound to the nucleus by the electromagnetic force. So where does this electromagnetic force come from??? | |
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Think of a rapidly rotating carnival ride. They used to have the kind that was like a big cereal bowl. You were pushed up against the sides with considerable force. If you were fixed in the center of the "bowl" you would observe objects moving in a curved line towards the boundary wall if they were in a free situation (not in a track). A thrown ball would appear to you as having a wicked curve. The speed would increase due to acceleration if the object were tethered or restrained (Gravity). Here's the problem: rotating systems tend to flatten out and the universe would end up looking like a super-sized galaxy. We should see more galaxies clustered in directions 90 degrees from the axis yet space looks pretty much the same whatever direction you look. So it would have to be spinning along an infinite number of spin axes to produce such an even spread of expansion. Sort of like a gyroscope with an infinite number of gimbals. Also, since galaxies seem to be racing away from us in all directions, a rotating universe theory would have to place us at the exact center, back to a pre-Galileo, earth-centered cosmology. The odds of us just happening to be at the exact center of the universe are remote. That space itself continues to expand is a simpler explanation. As space expands, stuff moves away. The farther something is from us, the more expanding space exists between us and it, the faster it appears to be moving. ____________ | |
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Perhaps the insight into spin can be equated to that of what occurs within the atom. The atom has it's electron/s spinning around it's nucleus without all these electrons the atom can no longer exists, unless of course it can grab some from somewhere else. Since the atom requires spin of some form to exist so perhaps does matter too. We can then go further up the chain and state that perhaps to exist in a fairly stable state that the universe itself requires spin in some form or other. Ooooow?..Has to come from within the nucleus itself that I assume too creates the shell structures around it that the electron orbits within. | |
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Also, since galaxies seem to be racing away from us in all directions, a rotating universe theory would have to place us at the exact center, back to a pre-Galileo, earth-centered cosmology. The odds of us just happening to be at the exact center of the universe are remote. Now here's an idea on this, Kenzie....what if it is not actually as we see it. That in reality all bodies not tied together by gravity the space around them is expanding giving rise to the effect that they are racing away from us in all directions where in actual fact it's the space between us that is expanding. | |
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Also, since galaxies seem to be racing away from us in all directions, a rotating universe theory would have to place us at the exact center, back to a pre-Galileo, earth-centered cosmology. The odds of us just happening to be at the exact center of the universe are remote. That is basically what I meant by the last paragraph in my post. Distance galaxies are moving away from us (and us from them) because the space between us and them is expanding. It makes it seem as if we are in the center of the universe but to someone living in a galaxy at the edge of our field of view (13 billion light years away) would also see galaxies racing away in all directions. I think that this would also apply to things that are gravitationally bound like galaxies themselves or solar systems (or even things like atoms that are bound by nuclear forces) but the distances are too small for the effects to be measurable. It also bears remembering that the universe is not under any obligation to confirm with the human concept of common sense. ____________ | |
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