Milky Way barred galaxy?

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rriverstone Send message Joined: 29 Sep 10 Posts: 22 Credit: 1,854 RAC: 0	Message 1037686 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010, 3:43:26 UTC
	HOW in the Sam Hill could we know that? I keep hearing about an orbiting telescope, taking a picture. whu? How many years would it be to fly a craft over the MW to take the pic, and how many light years would it take the digital signal to get back to Earth? Did dinosaurs launch a giant mirror up there, and now we can bounce a picture off it? I just cannot grasp this. http://www.news.wisc.edu/11405 THIS kind of stuff is why a lot of us Luddites think you science geeks make this stuff up. We need to hear it in street English, I guess. Like string theory and even the theory/fact of evolution. Nobody taught us how to think abstractly, or for ourselves, and you ask us to trust you? So, how does looking across a big, fuzzy, swirling cloud of stars, et al, give one enough info to guess the shape of MW? It all looks like champagne bubbles, to me. ____________ For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. Carl Sagan
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Johnney Guinness Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 2944 Credit: 2,305,966 RAC: 330	Message 1037730 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010, 7:56:30 UTC - in response to Message 1037686. Last modified: 1 Oct 2010, 8:36:12 UTC
	... We need to hear it in street English, Ok so! Yo homme, Kick yo ass back fo som God Defyin scientific method that no God fearin brother can deny! Dis just how hommes check dem stars in the Big ass MilkyWay. Brother, mi homeboy go by the name profess Ed Churchwell, dude is ET AL!!!. Now he a Wisconsin Uni boy! Profess Ed did check out all dem stars with precision no bother ain't never seen before. Now Ed checked them stars in yo MilkyWay in light no man can see, checked them stars in infra-red light!! Ma brother Ed den chalked out dem mighty fine mathematics on some crisp white paper and published the brothers science finding on yo scientific journal, go by de name, Astrophysical Journal Letters, and de evidence is cool brother, is cool!!! Just check this out brother rriverstone, its all good; http://iopscience.iop.org/1538-3881/134/6/2099/pdf/1538-3881_134_6_2099.pdf Its all good bro, trust me, man speaks the truth! MilkyWay got one mighty fine barr runnin whole way through the middle!! Homme boy Johnney. ____________
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PT Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 171 Credit: 4,931,625 RAC: 3,459	Message 1037826 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010, 16:10:25 UTC - in response to Message 1037730.
	Well now. That has certainly straightened it out for me lol. Thanks Johnney! Btw if you had done your 'splainin' in 'street cockney' no one would believe it.
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Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 11987 Credit: 18,074,327 RAC: 55,207	Message 1037832 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010, 16:32:33 UTC - in response to Message 1037730.
	Post of the year!
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rriverstone Send message Joined: 29 Sep 10 Posts: 22 Credit: 1,854 RAC: 0	Message 1037899 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010, 18:59:51 UTC - in response to Message 1037832.
	Otay... I guess I asked for that, huh? I think it was harder to read than astrophysics jargon, but hey, it's all good. Thank you, Johnny. If anybody ever asks me if astrophysics peeps r nerdy, uncool or dweebs, I'll certainly refer them to your response. I agree: post of the year, and I've only been here a week or so. ____________ For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. Carl Sagan
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Johnney Guinness Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 2944 Credit: 2,305,966 RAC: 330	Message 1037900 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010, 19:01:08 UTC Last modified: 1 Oct 2010, 19:16:13 UTC
	Das de word on the street brothers! Aint no brother can argue with the scientific findings...... MilkyWay got one badass star barr runnin tru de middle! ....Sweet! Words out, Johnney (Baddass) Guinness. ____________
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rriverstone Send message Joined: 29 Sep 10 Posts: 22 Credit: 1,854 RAC: 0	Message 1037903 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010, 19:10:24 UTC - in response to Message 1037899.
	ps: I is a grrl. ____________ For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. Carl Sagan
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Johnney Guinness Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 2944 Credit: 2,305,966 RAC: 330	Message 1037908 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010, 19:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 1037903.
	ps: I is a grrl. And sisters......Just enjoy that science girl! Johnney :) ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7137 Credit: 3,685,485 RAC: 980	Message 1038428 - Posted: 2 Oct 2010, 21:48:37 UTC - in response to Message 1037686.
	HOW in the Sam Hill could we know that? ... THIS kind of stuff is why a lot of us Luddites think you science geeks make this stuff up. ... ... and you ask us to trust you? So, how does looking across a big, fuzzy, swirling cloud of stars, et al, give one enough info to guess the shape of MW? It all looks like champagne bubbles, to me. By careful observation, you can see so much more. A lot of it is just taking the time to look and to consider. It's a bit like looking at your dinner plate after a meal and seeing that there is nothing left to eat. Then Sherlock Holmes gets his magnifying glass out and then carefully and studiously scans across the scene and tells you what you've just eaten... There is no blind 'trust' in science. Everything is open to question. Everything is compared against real world observation. There is no 'belief'. Everything must be observed and measured! The data used by s@h has also been used to map the hydrogen density across our galaxy. Creating the map is a bit like how x-ray pictures are taken to show people's bones and dense tissue... To explain further takes a bit more reading! It's always good to question! Keep searchin', Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 8871 Credit: 1,231,303 RAC: 1,743	Message 1038549 - Posted: 3 Oct 2010, 2:09:55 UTC
	Are there more bars than in Madison? :)
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JLConawayII Send message Joined: 2 Apr 02 Posts: 181 Credit: 2,630,328 RAC: 268	Message 1038870 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 20:11:45 UTC - in response to Message 1037730.
	Johnney Guinness wins a solid gold star. ____________
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Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 2866 Credit: 1,779,323 RAC: 237	Message 1039365 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 2:34:16 UTC
	I agree, post of the year. And head on over to the MilkyWay project to learn more, and to help figure out the exact shape of our little home. Here is the major "make you go hmmmmm" thing I got from MilkyWay: our present galaxy is the result of a collision between at least 2 galaxies, and the collision is still underway. Did anybody get the licence number of that other galaxy? ____________
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kenzieB Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 3913 Credit: 1,577,395 RAC: 631	Message 1039425 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 5:47:21 UTC - in response to Message 1039365.
	I agree, post of the year. And head on over to the MilkyWay project to learn more, and to help figure out the exact shape of our little home. Here is the major "make you go hmmmmm" thing I got from MilkyWay: our present galaxy is the result of a collision between at least 2 galaxies, and the collision is still underway. Did anybody get the licence number of that other galaxy? Another 'hmmmmm' moment: in a few billion years our galaxy will collide with the Andromeda Galaxy. Computer simulation. ____________
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,516,513 RAC: 8,959	Message 1040210 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 14:05:54 UTC
	for normal computer geek summary: Take all known objects/locations, known distances and directions, drop them into a CAD program. Zoom out, and spin it around and take a look from another direction. Of course a true luddite would have smashed their PC long ago. ____________ Janice
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