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it used to take 3 hours to crunch a wu
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xilef Send message Joined: 18 Jul 01 Posts: 43 Credit: 17,485,094 RAC: 0 |
It takes 5 hours now. Several changes. Most of my credit was on the same machine, different partition, using windows98se. I'm using XP now and 4.13. I am doing LHC one third of the time. And what appears to be the real problem: when running SETI my screen never goes to blank although it will with LHC. Also my computer will delay 10-20 seconds when opening a new program while SETI is running. My benchmarks say that wu's should run at about 4.5 hours, which is also higher than with 98se, but they are all taking 5+ hours. 2500+ 512 MB cas2 Any ideas on how to get the screen to go blank? Or other solutions |
mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0 |
see the messages about version 4.05 slowdowns. Yes everyone sees it, no they do not know what is causing it, yet. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20326 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
> see the messages about version 4.05 slowdowns. > Yes everyone sees it, no they do not know what is causing it, yet. ... Only for Windows and possibly only for some of Windows. Meanwhile, Linux is working fine and fast! Good luck, Martin -- ---------- OS? What's that?! - Martin - To most people, "Operating System" is unknown & strange. - 53N 1W - Mandrake 10.0.1 GNU Linux - An OS for Supercomputers & PCs ---------- What is Mandrake Linux? See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Rick Guttery Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 6 Credit: 65,562 RAC: 0 |
I'm very frustrate with BOINC 4.13 and Seti 4.05. I had great times before this latest ver of Boinc and Seti. Now my laptop P4(2.4 GHz) is doing more WU than my P4 HT (2.8 GHZ) is doing. I know there will be growning pains, but when alot of people that allow Seti free times on their computers say there is a problem and Seti does not do a thing about it or say they are 'working on the problem' without more than that, I myself have a problem allow free use of a program I am not sure is running right. I think the people that are running Seti need to get a grip and go back to BOINC 4.09 and Seit 4.03 till they can find and fix the problems in the code. Until then, I have moved to LHC and Climateprediction. Some on here say they are on here for the science, well I am here for the WU numbers and science. So Seti get your head out and get this problem fixed before you loose more 'free' computer users...... SPC Rick Guttery Det 1 717th Med Co (AA) OKARNG |
Keith Kennedy Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 149 Credit: 244,165 RAC: 0 |
> It takes 5 hours now. Several changes. Most of my credit was on the same > machine, different partition, using windows98se. I'm using XP now and 4.13. I > am doing LHC one third of the time. And what appears to be the real problem: > when running SETI my screen never goes to blank although it will with LHC. > Also my computer will delay 10-20 seconds when opening a new program while > SETI is running. > > My benchmarks say that wu's should run at about 4.5 hours, which is also > higher than with 98se, but they are all taking 5+ hours. > > 2500+ > 512 MB cas2 > > Any ideas on how to get the screen to go blank? Or other solutions > To get your screen to go blank, try changing the power saving settings, then change it back if you want to. This fix worked for me, with XP Home SP2 and BOINC 4.13. |
Bill & Patsy Send message Joined: 6 Apr 01 Posts: 141 Credit: 508,875 RAC: 0 |
> see the messages about version 4.05 slowdowns. > Yes everyone sees it, no they do not know what is causing it, yet. > > Yes. There's already a well-developed thread on this topic. See: @Developers: When will you fix the 4.05 slowdown issue? --Bill |
dazphotog Send message Joined: 13 Mar 02 Posts: 73 Credit: 99,224 RAC: 0 |
>I think the people that are running Seti need to get a grip and go back to BOINC 4.09 and Seit 4.03 till they can find and fix the problems in the code. We cannot go back to 4.09...4.09 has worse problems. See this thread. Couldn't validate - missing file Don |
Franz Bauer Send message Joined: 8 Feb 01 Posts: 127 Credit: 9,690,361 RAC: 0 |
When I first joined S@H BOINC back on June 25th everthing worked fine with 3.18. WUs were taking 3.5 hours to complete. Then as of July 20th everything went to hell. Couldn't get WUs, couldn't send WUs and the computer started to freeze up for no reason while running S@H. Since then, I have upgraded from Win 2000 Pro to XP Pro and to every BOINC ungrade made available. The computer is still freezing up at random. I'm going to have to buy a new computer case shortly because the rest button has worn out. About a week ago with BOINC 4.13, S@H WUs were taking 7 hours to complete with the 01 WUs. Now they are down to 6 hours with the 05 WUs. It actually takes 2 to 3 days to get a WU processed with all the computer lockups. Mind you it has not been locking up as frequently now as in the past. Frustrated Franz |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
> It takes 5 hours now. Several changes. Most of my credit was on the same > machine, different partition, using windows98se. I'm using XP now and 4.13. I > am doing LHC one third of the time. And what appears to be the real problem: > when running SETI my screen never goes to blank although it will with LHC. > Also my computer will delay 10-20 seconds when opening a new program while > SETI is running. > > My benchmarks say that wu's should run at about 4.5 hours, which is also > higher than with 98se, but they are all taking 5+ hours. > > 2500+ > 512 MB cas2 > > Any ideas on how to get the screen to go blank? Or other solutions >Yes Start/Settings//control Panel/Display/Screen Saver/None. Dave Nelson |
Arm Send message Joined: 12 Sep 03 Posts: 308 Credit: 15,584,777 RAC: 0 |
Actually during last night I finished 3 WUs for 3 hours each (s@h 4.05) on AthlonXP 3200+. It took me 4 hrs before. Some kind of a mystery... P.S. With s@h 4.03 it took me 2 hrs 20 mins. |
Papa Zito Send message Joined: 7 Feb 03 Posts: 257 Credit: 624,881 RAC: 0 |
This is already being discussed in this thread: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=5811 |
Scribe Send message Joined: 4 Nov 00 Posts: 137 Credit: 35,235 RAC: 0 |
Don't worry, that was only the FOURTH time they have been told this is a DUPLICATE thread! |
xilef Send message Joined: 18 Jul 01 Posts: 43 Credit: 17,485,094 RAC: 0 |
Thank you Admiral and Keith Kennedy. I have previously tried Kennedy's solution. Admiral's will go into effect in about 30 seconds. Thank you everyone who said that the discussion is elsewhere. On dial up those threads take forever. For all those who want to slam me for not having broadband, wake up, most of this country is rural where no broadband is available. I happen to live 7 miles from the closest DSL, which is the smallest town in my state to offer DSL. Maybe it's the university located in the town, maybe it's because it's the capital of the Cherokee nation, maybe it's because it's the location of the first phone call placed from this state and SBC has a fondness for this town, but there are quite a few larger towns/cities here that do not have DSL. Cable internet is also available in the same service region where DSL is available. Wireless is coming, but it's not guaranteed since it is line of sight and there are the hills to deal with... |
Rick Guttery Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 6 Credit: 65,562 RAC: 0 |
> Don't worry, that was only the FOURTH time they have been told this is a > DUPLICATE thread! > Then don't read it for the 4th time..... SPC Rick Guttery Det 1 717th Med Co (AA) OKARNG |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
> On dial up those threads take forever. In your account you can change the forum preferences. Select Show images as links, Hide avatar images & Hide signatures. Hopefully that will speed the loading of the pages. Grant Darwin NT |
Pepperammi Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 200 Credit: 737,775 RAC: 0 |
> > My benchmarks say that wu's should run at about 4.5 hours, which is also > higher than with 98se, but they are all taking 5+ hours. > > 2500+ > 512 MB cas2 > > Any ideas on how to get the screen to go blank? Or other solutions > It seems funny that i'm running a P4 2.66GHz with 1Gb of ram (also not using the screensaver at all) and mine takes almost exactly 5hours every time... more wierdly because it almost looks like its been set to take that long as its always 5hours +/- up to 4 minutes i keep seeing -- and ive watched several units reach 100% and keep going for, 20minutes was the last one i watched and then when it went just over 5hours decided to finish? Bit Iffy i think. also i dont think its just a problem about 4.05 because i knot im not the only one whos seen the time slowly creep up since the very begining. At one time i was taking 2 hours. then 2.5h, 3h, 4h, 4.2h, 4.5h, 5h.... |
Pepperammi Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 200 Credit: 737,775 RAC: 0 |
> > Any ideas on how to get the screen to go blank? Or other solutions > If you dont mind getting rid of the screensaver completely you could just switch your saver to 'Blank' in XP |
Pepperammi Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 200 Credit: 737,775 RAC: 0 |
Final note. Maybe those of us only taking 5 hours-ish should consider ourselves lucky? when i look at the results page for an overview of credit.. which im mostly missing out on.. i see most people are aparently taking 2, 3, somtimes 4 times longer on the same WU's and my pc is overdue for a major upgrade or at least format and restart. |
xilef Send message Joined: 18 Jul 01 Posts: 43 Credit: 17,485,094 RAC: 0 |
Thank you, Grant, I had not seen those options before. Just implemented them. C Betteridge, thank you as well. Your suggestion is the one that Admiral proposed; I turned it off several hours ago. I'm not sure that it made a difference, but at the moment it appears to be helpful. LHC was running for a long time. My LHC wu's are finishing in half the time that is estimated, a little over a half an hour. But they've always been fast. It also appears that I was mistaken when I said that I have a delay opening new progs when SETI is running, it seems that it is LHC that is causing that slow down. I too have noticed that some SETI wu's keep crunching after they reach 100%, but only for a minute or so, not the 20 minutes that C Betteridge saw. |
Pepperammi Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 200 Credit: 737,775 RAC: 0 |
> It seems funny that i'm running a P4 2.66GHz with 1Gb of ram (also not using > the screensaver at all) and mine takes almost exactly 5hours every time... > more wierdly because it almost looks like its been set to take that long as > its always 5hours +/- up to 4 minutes i keep seeing -- and ive watched several > units reach 100% and keep going for, 20minutes was the last one i watched and > then when it went just over 5hours decided to finish? I have to abmit it was only the last 1 i watch do that, its usualy 10-12 min but always only stops when reaches almost exactly 5 hours. I thought this might a little bit nonsence to sone, and nuts to me. well i decided to do and experiment this morning. I set my alarm for when the running WU should finnish. Sure enough it finished within two minutes of siting at my pc, haha. i then spent the next few hours doing my normal work with boinc confined to work in the background. The usual word procesing, spreadsheet, some image editing (That has to have made a diffrence) and web browsing whilst all the time listning to mp3 collections and some vids. Normaly i only run boinc when im not on the pc cus i don't like the slowdown that it does have somtimes so i was amazed that STILL it took exactly 5hours and 4minutes;32secs... with all the other stuff it should have took much longer. i'm wondering if part the problem is seti have accidently some sort of processing limit. unlickly cus it always seems take all the CPU but how is all this possible? ADDED; > also i dont think its just a problem about 4.05 because i knot im not the > only one whos seen the time slowly creep up since the very begining. At one > time i was taking 2 hours. then 2.5h, 3h, 4h, 4.2h, 4.5h, 5h.... just as ive been writing this post boinc forced another CPU benchmark and the estimate time has jumped again from just over 5 hours to 5:34. now it shouldn't as all im running now is aol. |
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