> To have English only ...

I never advocated or recommended "English only". And you know that.

> Your stating of wanting English only ...

I never advocated or stated "wanting English only". And you know that.

Mr. Utzig, why do you criticize yet again for things I never said or asserted? Perhaps because you know that the basic tenets are valid and you can't deal with that?

You seem to have a problem with the fact that English is currently the world's lingua franca. Well, stop trying to make that everyone else's problem. The best overall *CHOICE* for posting in fora like these is English, and you know it. You just don't like it. You can rant all you like, employ all the Sophistry you can muster, sterotype those you disagree with, etc., etc., but you won't change that truth one iota.

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> Hi Marty,
>
> if I am not mistaken it is you first post in the number crunching board ?
> A very authoritary one. Well, you just found yourself a new moderator job
> here. Good luck...
>
> Marc

No thanks

> > ... Besides, if you aren’t able to understand English, you’ll
> > have a hard time trying to post anything here or very lucky you pressed
> the
> > right links.
>
> ***That's my point. It shouldn't be. Those who do not speak English, should
> not be afraid to post in their native language and get assistance from those
> who also comprehend it. There is no need to use English at all unless you are
> addressing the project administrators.***

Yes,but different forums for different languages are the answer here

> > Also besides the fact I understand the general lines of you
> > German posts, if your post was not meant for everyone to read, you should
> have
> > emailed it, asked for a private messaging system or refrained yourself
> from
> > posting that top-secret information.
>
> ***Why is it only correct to have conversations between people only if English
> is used? There is nothing 'top-secret' in what I write in German but I have no
> need to translate it to English to satisfy the curiosity of those who do not
> comprehend German. I participate in several threads, that are just
> conversations and in English. I will continue to do so in German. No-one has
> the right to dictate in which langauge anyone wishes to communicate in -
> unless the project administrators ban all other languages.***

> > Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind the occasional educational German
> post,
> > but I get the impression you would just post in German to annoy people
> and I
> > hope I'm wrong.
>
> I'm afraid not. I post in German because I can communicate with some people
> better in German. Just as others do in other languages.

I wouldn’t dream of depriving you of the pleasure of annoying people, but please do not claim you are serving a greater interest.

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Anyway, with a near 20% growth, and 1.5 billions citizens,
I would say that we should all start to learn chineese...lol

By reading all the post I guess we all agree but it is getting
confusing. I don't see any problem in posting using any languages.
For those who can communicate in English and enjoy doing it, it
surely give more chances of being understood by more people,
nothing more, nothing less. I always post in english because I
like it, but I could start a thread in French or Indonesian...
Of course I would expect people to reply to me in the language
I have adressed.

Suppose a German user is reading this thread and he doesn't
understand very well the meaning of what I am saying. He could
very well ask a particular german user in german to explain
him something. There is nothing annoying in that.

inch'Allah

> > I wouldn’t dream of depriving you of the pleasure of annoying people,
> but
> > please do not claim you are serving a greater interest.
>
> Show me where I ever claimed that.

Well, I don’t see you struggling expressing yourself in English, everyone agrees this forum shouldn’t be confined to English only and there is something obscure about your reasoning.

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Hi everybody,

i agree, that english is the most understood language on the internet. But why starting a kind of war like this? I never had problems with posts in a foreign language i don't understand. If i'm interested in the 'value' of that particular post, i try to translate. If i'm unfortunate in translating i kindly ask if someone is able to translate it for me. Normally it's no problem, if you are friendly and polite. If you are rude and agressive, it's no wonder, you don't get an answer.

Just a thought, and the usually 2 (Euro-)cents ;)

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Aloha, Uli

> > > > I wouldn’t dream of depriving you of the pleasure of annoying
> > people,
> > > but
> > > > please do not claim you are serving a greater interest.
> > >
> > > Show me where I ever claimed that.
> >
> > Well, I don’t see you struggling expressing yourself in English,
> everyone
> > agrees this forum shouldn’t be confined to English only and there is
> something
> > obscure about your reasoning.
>
> Sorry, where do you get that everyone is stating that it shouldn't be confined
> to English?
>

I suggest you clear you mind and reread all the posts. The general tone is ‘try to use English if possible’. And your view seems more like ‘only use English if absolutely necessarily’. And like everyone else you are entitled to your opinion as I’m entitled to mine.

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> > english , greman,french,sandscript, chinese, japanise,etc
> > it would be wrong for me to answer posts in another language not that of
> the
> > original posting as i would not be able to say if the poster would be
> able to
> > translate it
>
> ***Yes, but if you can't read it, then the post was not meant for you and it
> shouldn't concern you. No-one need to know everything that is written.***
>

This, my friend, contradicts the fact that this is a public forum. Public meaning that I should be able to read and/or reply to any post. I neither speak, read nor write any language other than the one you are reading right now. I agree with the person who left the original post quoted above.

L8R....

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"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> > Well, it seems to come down to this:
> >
> > One vote for the Tower of Babel (from Mr. Utzig).
>
> Why do you need to read every post?
>
> Why do you wish to exclude those who have a poor comprehension of English?
>
> Perhaps you are just too nosey.
>

Once again, this is a public forum.

L8R....

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"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

This is my take on this whole thing:

If I see a thread started in another language other than the one and only language I happen to use, I pass it by. I do not bother going into the thread.

If I see a thread, with an interesting subject line, I enter it and start reading. What bothers me is the fact that someone will leave a post in English, whether it's their first or second language, and someone else will answer that post in another language, leaving me scratching my head wondering what the answer was.

I don't advocate "English only....". Although, hey, what can I say? I can't read or write another language. My suggestion is: If you're more comfortable with your first (non-English) language, write the subject line in your langauge. I will just pass it by since I won't be able to read it anyway. If you're in a thread started in English, use English. If you're like me, "mono-lingua", ....

L8R....

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"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

go to another thread -> link.

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> go to another thread -> <a> href="http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=5893">link.[/url]
>

Nice move! I'm gone....

L8R....

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