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Message 38742 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 7:16:38 UTC
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For all those arguing about languages and clogging up other threads - please post in here and leave the others in peace, thanks,

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Message 38747 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 7:37:45 UTC

and plus they won't :)


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Message 38756 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 8:15:18 UTC

Ita erat quando hic adveni.



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Message 38765 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 9:34:06 UTC

Gute Idee, mehr Platz in anderen Threads... ;)

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Message 38782 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 12:27:38 UTC - in response to Message 38780.  

> english , greman,french,sandscript, chinese, japanise,etc
and slovak please ;o)
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Message 38790 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 13:22:10 UTC - in response to Message 38780.  

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> it would be wrong for me to answer posts in another language not that of the
> original posting as i would not be able to say if the poster would be able to
> translate it

This was my point in the other thread. It's not being "elitist" it's being considerate.
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Message 38831 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 15:50:06 UTC - in response to Message 38780.  
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Message 38861 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 18:31:14 UTC

Well, it seems to come down to this:

One vote for the Tower of Babel (from Mr. Utzig).

Just about everyone else being in favor of free choice, with the recognition that English is more likely to reach the most participants, including both those whose first language is English and those whose first language is not.

--Bill

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Message 38875 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 19:51:07 UTC - in response to Message 38861.  
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Message 38891 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 20:38:19 UTC - in response to Message 38875.  

> > Well, it seems to come down to this:
> >
> > One vote for the Tower of Babel (from Mr. Utzig).
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> Why do you need to read every post?
>
> Why do you wish to exclude those who have a poor comprehension of English?
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> Perhaps you are just too nosey.
>

Once again you are slithering things around and criticizing others (in this case me) for things never said or asserted.

Haven't I asked you to stop your Sophistry and to stay on point? If you want to argue and pick a fight, at least address the points raised and stop putting your own words in other people's mouths, OK?

To wit (once again):

1. I never said or implied that I or anyone else needed to read every post. That is your stupid idea, not mine, so stop criticizing me for it. It's never been my position. For you to keep arguing that is simply dishonest.

2. I never suggested, nor would ever want, to exclude those who have a poor comprehension of English. Again, that is your stupid idea, not mine, so stop criticizing me for it. It's never been my position. For you to keep arguing otherwise is simply dishonest. My post specifically referenced "being in favor of free choice".

3. "too nosey"? You know essentially nothing about me. That assertion is an ad hominem attack that is intellectually cheap and dishonest. It is your own stupid idea, so don't criticize me for it.

--Bill

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Message 38902 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 21:21:11 UTC - in response to Message 38891.  
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Message 38919 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 22:03:45 UTC

What the hell started all this crap?

If someone wants to use their native tongue, good on them. If someone doesn't speak that language and wants to know what is posted, go find out!

I personally am somewhat intrigued as to a response that is posted in something other than English. Makes the boards both frustrating, but interesting and educational too.

Being an Englishman with only a small knowledge of French (lived and worked there for a year) and a vague memory of my German, I am at a disadvantage to my European brothers and sisters. We just raise our voices and add an accent and hope for the best. Languages are not our strong point. And I hastily add that I do not speak for all crunchers from the UK. Just the ones I know!

Go learn and respect others and their languages.



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Message 38922 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 22:08:47 UTC - in response to Message 38902.  

> > 2. I never suggested, nor would ever want, to exclude those who have a
> poor
> > comprehension of English. Again, that is your stupid idea, not mine, so
> stop
> > criticizing me for it. It's never been my position. For you to keep
> arguing
> > otherwise is simply dishonest. My post specifically referenced "being
> in
> > favor of free choice".
>
> To have English only is then the equivalent of the exclusion of those who are
> not partially fluent in English - they are then unable to take part within the
> fora especially as they would be hounded by those who would then rant about
> not writing in English. Why? Because these want to read all that is written -
> which is unnecessary. This ranting already takes place in threads where it is
> a non-English discussion. English-only speakers have absolutely no need to
> know what is written in another language. Funny how it is always English-only
> speakers that rant and not by those whose first language is not English.
>
> Your stating of wanting English only will result in the unavoidable exclusion
> of those who do not comprehend English - whether this is your implied intent
> or not.
>
> I am always amazed at how many English speakers resent others that speak
> another language. Advocating English only, re-enforces this view by those
> whose first language is not English.
>
> Yes, English is a world-wide language, but it not the only one. Until
> non-English is actually banned by the administrators; I am glad people who
> advocate an English-only rule can not have their dictates forced upon those
> who do not have a comprehension of English and on those of us who post in
> other languages.
>
> Whether your viewpoint extends to the enforcing of an English only rule
> matters not as you do not run the project. You, I, and everyone else have no
> need to read every post - especially if it is written in another language.
>
> -H. Richard Utzig

Stereotyping and generalization
As you may have guessed, English is not my native language and in that no-English (Dutch) language I was raised to be polite. That also included trying to speak in the language (English, French and German) of the one you are addressing. Besides, if you aren’t able to understand English, you’ll have a hard time trying to post anything here or very lucky you pressed the right links. Also besides the fact I understand the general lines of you German posts, if your post was not meant for everyone to read, you should have emailed it, asked for a private messaging system or refrained yourself from posting that top-secret information.

Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind the occasional educational German post, but I get the impression you would just post in German to annoy people and I hope I'm wrong.

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Message 38923 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 22:10:41 UTC

Isn't this the seti@home message board for number crunching?

We are all on the same team here, right?

Please move your language discussion to the cafe message board.

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Message 38929 - Posted: 21 Oct 2004, 22:32:04 UTC - in response to Message 38923.  
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> Isn't this the seti@home message board for number crunching?
>
> We are all on the same team here, right?
>
> Please move your language discussion to the cafe message board.
>
> marty
>

Hi Marty,

if I am not mistaken it is you first post in the number crunching board ?
A very authoritary one. Well, you just found yourself a new moderator job
here. Good luck...

Marc

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