In the last 24 hours........

I have........

Pissed off Lori.
Said my last godbyes to Oscar.
And Squirrel.........

And JFK..........

And most of you, before I knew you were on my side.

He knew before his death..............that there were 'secret' things that needed to be outted.......

Why in the F do you think there were so many odd things that happened in the hous after his death???????

Amd his supposed 'lone assisin' was shot to death in public?

Damn ... I should have written the show.....Dammit.........

Of course We're on Your side, We're Your friend dammit all, No matter what comes.

So.........my friend....do you know .....this is history........ and why he was killed.........are you ready for the truth?

This is how it came down......... sorry if you think me radical......

I am not.

Why in the F do you think there were so many odd things that happened in the hours after his death???????

And his supposed 'lone assisin' was shot to death in public?

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Yes, my friends.........

It was all bald faced, CIA killing........

Don't you all see it?

He had them......he was going to out them........he called them out.

And they killed him.........sad, but true.

Hoover be damned. This is a CIA hit,,,,,,,,,and covered up....

We all know the Zapruder film has no real 'thread of evidence......'

Even it, the best evidence that we have, was altered.......it did not remain in private hands until it was presented to the public.

Even with the limited facilities given of that day.........the butched it.

THEY......took to their selves........even that last one look at the deed.

Every frame must be questioned. Because THEY had possession of it...........
After all, even the death photos have been held in doubt.
And even the Zapruder film had been Questioned.......... What we all once thought was the final look....it was not.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

You all think I am nutso, don't you?

Not true..........

Is there anybody else who knows, as I do, that he was killed for his beliefs?

I can not watch it one more time.........Came from the front, eh? The clearest version I have found..........so F me if I am right. You can draw your own conclusions........I have drawn mine.

The only case of cold blooded murder ever fully documented by the media and not prosecuted..............EVER.

I must let him lay, as so many others.
Who have laid down their lives so others could live free.

God bless his memory. As I do.........oops........the Black helicoptors are hovering...........

SEE YAA.............meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

If you have any second thoughts 'bout the fatal shot..............

I can fix that............

Not as in a 'fix'. like the Warren dudes did,

They were such fools..........or mainly pawns.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

But they were all liars

Why could they not see ti???????/


They saw this.............


We choose to go to the Moon speech by John F. Kennedy

We meet at a college noted for knowledge, in a city noted for progress, in a state noted for strength, and we stand in need of all three, for we meet in an hour of change and challenge, in a decade of hope and fear, in an age of both knowledge and ignorance. The greater our knowledge increases, the greater our ignorance unfolds.
Despite the striking fact that most of the scientists that the world has ever known are alive and working today, despite the fact that this Nation's own scientific manpower is doubling every 12 years in a rate of growth more than three times that of our population as a whole, despite that, the vast stretches of the unknown and the unanswered and the unfinished still far outstrip our collective comprehension.
No man can fully grasp how far and how fast we have come, but condense, if you will, the 50,000 years of man's recorded history in a time span of but a half-century. Stated in these terms, we know very little about the first 40 years, except at the end of them advanced man had learned to use the skins of animals to cover them. Then about 10 years ago, under this standard, man emerged from his caves to construct other kinds of shelter. Only five years ago man learned to write and use a cart with wheels. Christianity began less than two years ago. The printing press came this year, and then less than two months ago, during this whole 50-year span of human history, the steam engine provided a new source of power. Newton explored the meaning of gravity. Last month electric lights and telephones and automobiles and airplanes became available. Only last week did we develop penicillin and television and nuclear power, and now if America's new spacecraft succeeds in reaching Venus, we will have literally reached the stars before midnight tonight.
This is a breathtaking pace, and such a pace cannot help but create new ills as it dispels old, new ignorance, new problems, new dangers. Surely the opening vistas of space promise high costs and hardships, as well as high reward.
So it is not surprising that some would have us stay where we are a little longer to rest, to wait. But this city of Houston, this state of Texas, this country of the United States was not built by those who waited and rested and wished to look behind them. This country was conquered by those who moved forward--and so will space.
William Bradford, speaking in 1630 of the founding of the Plymouth Bay Colony, said that all great and honorable actions are accompanied with great difficulties, and both must be enterprised and overcome with answerable courage.
If this capsule history of our progress teaches us anything, it is that man, in his quest for knowledge and progress, is determined and cannot be deterred. The exploration of space will go ahead, whether we join in it or not, and it is one of the great adventures of all time, and no nation which expects to be the leader of other nations can expect to stay behind in this race for space.
Those who came before us made certain that this country rode the first waves of the industrial revolution, the first waves of modern invention, and the first wave of nuclear power, and this generation does not intend to founder in the backwash of the coming age of space. We mean to be a part of it--we mean to lead it. For the eyes of the world now look into space, to the moon and to the planets beyond, and we have vowed that we shall not see it governed by a hostile flag of conquest, but by a banner of freedom and peace. We have vowed that we shall not see space filled with weapons of mass destruction, but with instruments of knowledge and understanding.
Yet the vows of this Nation can only be fulfilled if we in this Nation are first, and, therefore, we intend to be first. In short, our leadership in science and industry, our hopes for peace and security, our obligations to ourselves as well as others, all require us to make this effort, to solve these mysteries, to solve them for the good of all men, and to become the world's leading space-faring nation.
We set sail on this new sea because there is new knowledge to be gained, and new rights to be won, and they must be won and used for the progress of all people. For space science, like nuclear science and all technology, has no conscience of its own. Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man, and only if the United States occupies a position of pre-eminence can we help decide whether this new ocean will be a sea of peace or a new terrifying theater of war. I do not say that we should or will go unprotected against the hostile misuse of space any more than we go unprotected against the hostile use of land or sea, but I do say that space can be explored and mastered without feeding the fires of war, without repeating the mistakes that man has made in extending his writ around this globe of ours.
There is no strife, no prejudice, no national conflict in outer space as yet. Its hazards are hostile to us all. Its conquest deserves the best of all mankind, and its opportunity for peaceful cooperation many never come again. But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas?
We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
It is for these reasons that I regard the decision last year to shift our efforts in space from low to high gear as among the most important decisions that will be made during my incumbency in the office of the Presidency.
In the last 24 hours we have seen facilities now being created for the greatest and most complex exploration in man's history. We have felt the ground shake and the air shattered by the testing of a Saturn C-1 booster rocket, many times as powerful as the Atlas which launched John Glenn, generating power equivalent to 10,000 automobiles with their accelerators on the floor. We have seen the site where five F-1 rocket engines, each one as powerful as all eight engines of the Saturn combined, will be clustered together to make the advanced Saturn missile, assembled in a new building to be built at Cape Canaveral as tall as a 48 story structure, as wide as a city block, and as long as two lengths of this field.
Within these last 19 months at least 45 satellites have circled the earth. Some 40 of them were made in the United States of America and they were far more sophisticated and supplied far more knowledge to the people of the world than those of the Soviet Union.
The Mariner spacecraft now on its way to Venus is the most intricate instrument in the history of space science. The accuracy of that shot is comparable to firing a missile from Cape Canaveral and dropping it in this stadium between the 40-yard lines.
Transit satellites are helping our ships at sea to steer a safer course. Tiros satellites have given us unprecedented warnings of hurricanes and storms, and will do the same for forest fires and icebergs.
We have had our failures, but so have others, even if they do not admit them. And they may be less public.
To be sure, we are behind, and will be behind for some time in manned flight. But we do not intend to stay behind, and in this decade, we shall make up and move ahead.
The growth of our science and education will be enriched by new knowledge of our universe and environment, by new techniques of learning and mapping and observation, by new tools and computers for industry, medicine, the home as well as the school. Technical institutions, such as Rice, will reap the harvest of these gains.
And finally, the space effort itself, while still in its infancy, has already created a great number of new companies, and tens of thousands of new jobs. Space and related industries are generating new demands in investment and skilled personnel, and this city and this state, and this region, will share greatly in this growth. What was once the furthest outpost on the old frontier of the West will be the furthest outpost on the new frontier of science and space. Houston, your city of Houston, with its Manned Spacecraft Center, will become the heart of a large scientific and engineering community. During the next 5 years the National Aeronautics and Space Administration expects to double the number of scientists and engineers in this area, to increase its outlays for salaries and expenses to $60 million a year; to invest some $200 million in plant and laboratory facilities; and to direct or contract for new space efforts over $1 billion from this center in this city.
To be sure, all this costs us all a good deal of money. This year's space budget is three times what it was in January 1961, and it is greater than the space budget of the previous eight years combined. That budget now stands at $5,400 million a year--a staggering sum, though somewhat less than we pay for cigarettes and cigars every year. Space expenditures will soon rise some more, from 40 cents per person per week to more than 50 cents a week for every man, woman and child in the United States, for we have given this program a high national priority--even though I realize that this is in some measure an act of faith and vision, for we do not now know what benefits await us. But if I were to say, my fellow citizens, that we shall send to the moon, 240,000 miles away from the control station in Houston, a giant rocket more than 300 feet tall, the length of this football field, made of new metal alloys, some of which have not yet been invented, capable of standing heat and stresses several times more than have ever been experienced, fitted together with a precision better than the finest watch, carrying all the equipment needed for propulsion, guidance, control, communications, food and survival, on an untried mission, to an unknown celestial body, and then return it safely to earth, re-entering the atmosphere at speeds of over 25,000 miles per hour, causing heat about half that of the temperature of the sun--almost as hot as it is here today--and do all this, and do it right, and do it first before this decade is out--then we must be bold.
I'm the one who is doing all the work, so we just want you to stay cool for a minute. [laughter]
However, I think we're going to do it, and I think that we must pay what needs to be paid. I don't think we ought to waste any money, but I think we ought to do the job. And this will be done in the decade of the Sixties. It may be done while some of you are still here at school at this college and university. It will be done during the terms of office of some of the people who sit here on this platform. But it will be done. And it will be done before the end of this decade.
And I am delighted that this university is playing a part in putting a man on the moon as part of a great national effort of the United States of America.
Many years ago the great British explorer George Mallory, who was to die on Mount Everest, was asked why did he want to climb it. He said, "Because it is there."
Well, space is there, and we're going to climb it, and the moon and the planets are there, and new hopes for knowledge and peace are there. And, therefore, as we set sail we ask God's blessing on the most hazardous and dangerous and greatest adventure on which man has ever embarked.


Go to the moon speach.................they new what he could do.




Maybe that's what frightened them.

Truth always frightens some men.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Have any of you really read this?

Study it..........

No other president has ever been so eloquent..........or elegant, or regal, or real.

Obama does not have a freaking clue 'bout world politics...........

We will die by his own right hand. And he shall take the rest of us with him........

Trust me on this......the man is the Devil's right hand........



Obomanation............what a sad thing.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Obama does not have a freaking clue 'bout world politics...........

We will die by his own right hand. And he shall take the rest of us with him........

Trust me on this......the man is the Devil's right hand........

Obomanation............what a sad thing.

So, to wrap it all up neatly, President Obama rates lower than Bush (in your estimation) as to his awareness of world politics.

He, as Satan's right hand, will be the cause of the deaths of all Americans.

OK Mark, put down the jug and go to bed.
The brain wires are shorting out again.

Obama does not have a freaking clue 'bout world politics...........

We will die by his own right hand. And he shall take the rest of us with him........

Trust me on this......the man is the Devil's right hand........

Obomanation............what a sad thing.

So, to wrap it all up neatly, President Obama rates lower than Bush (in your estimation) as to his awareness of world politics.

He, as Satan's right hand, will be the cause of the deaths of all Americans.

OK Mark, put down the jug and go to bed.
The brain wires are shorting out again.

OK........

The Warren Commission was a work of art, and Oboma is the Saint you want him to be...............

Does that fit your agenda better?

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Obama does not have a freaking clue 'bout world politics...........

We will die by his own right hand. And he shall take the rest of us with him........

Trust me on this......the man is the Devil's right hand........

Obomanation............what a sad thing.

So, to wrap it all up neatly, President Obama rates lower than Bush (in your estimation) as to his awareness of world politics.

He, as Satan's right hand, will be the cause of the deaths of all Americans.

OK Mark, put down the jug and go to bed.
The brain wires are shorting out again.

OK........

The Warren Commission was a work of art, and Oboma is the Saint you want him to be...............

Does that fit your agenda better?

Wow, Do things always have to be one Extreme or another?

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Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!

Obama does not have a freaking clue 'bout world politics...........

We will die by his own right hand. And he shall take the rest of us with him........

Trust me on this......the man is the Devil's right hand........

Obomanation............what a sad thing.

So, to wrap it all up neatly, President Obama rates lower than Bush (in your estimation) as to his awareness of world politics.

He, as Satan's right hand, will be the cause of the deaths of all Americans.

OK Mark, put down the jug and go to bed.
The brain wires are shorting out again.

OK........

The Warren Commission was a work of art, and Oboma is the Saint you want him to be...............

Does that fit your agenda better?

Wow, Do things always have to be one Extreme or another?

You tell me......as most apparently do not believe my version of the truth.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Obama does not have a freaking clue 'bout world politics...........

We will die by his own right hand. And he shall take the rest of us with him........

Trust me on this......the man is the Devil's right hand........

Obomanation............what a sad thing.

So, to wrap it all up neatly, President Obama rates lower than Bush (in your estimation) as to his awareness of world politics.

He, as Satan's right hand, will be the cause of the deaths of all Americans.

OK Mark, put down the jug and go to bed.
The brain wires are shorting out again.

OK........

The Warren Commission was a work of art, and Oboma is the Saint you want him to be...............

Does that fit your agenda better?

Wow, Do things always have to be one Extreme or another?

You tell me......as most apparently do not believe my version of the truth.

I always found there are 3 truths...
"Yours, mine and the cold hard truth..."
Don Henley

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Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!

I always found there are 3 truths...
"Yours, mine and the cold hard truth..."
Don Henley

"The only truth I shall know is the one that makes me dead......"
msattler

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Clearing the air..................................

Sorry that I can be such an overbearing pain in the butt sometimes.

But....I do believe what I believe....

And if anybody else does not see eye to eye with me......
That is your right, and I should learn to respect it.

I just get sooooooooooo passionate about things sometimes. That's my manic depressive thingy taking hold. Like hiamps said.....one extreme or the other.

I guess God just didn't put all the wires in the right places. But, I thank him for what I am nonetheless.

And I thank you for still trying to be my friends. I know it's not an easy task.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Thanks SJ...........

But what also makes me sad today, is the fact that a great man's death has been rendered moot by the fact that his death was ignored by so many, for so long, and to this day remains not so much a mystery, but a falsehood.

A wise man once said, "an error does not become a mistake......until one refuses to correct it."


In a couple of months, it will be 46 years that these questions remain ......or at least, remain unanswered.

Almost as long as I have breathed upon this earth.

And, God willing, I hope the truth will one day come to light.

Not the truth as YOU know it, not the truth that the media, and the government wants you to have.......

The truth.
Nothing but the truth, so help me God........

Kennedy said that........said it more than once.

"So help me, God"

He was not afraid of the truth.

Our current President could not hold a tissue to wipe this man's butt.
And I think you all know that. So don't even waste our time trying to defend he who has no defense.

Truth? He cannot handle the truth, much less tell it.

JFK.........he knew the truth, and spoke it.

And that's why they killed him.

THEY could not handle the truth.

A great man......

"For I have sworn before you, and before almighty God......."
Now THAT was a MAN.

Me....a nutcase? Call me what you will......I think in the end, history will be on MY side.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Please do not move this to 'politics'.

I need it to remain open to public comment.
Thanx.

Still awaiting the mods to move my last post on the subject here.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

OK....I have said my peace........

Any thoughts from you on the subject?

Note......any simple "shut the f up" responses will be deleted.

Honest dissention, of course, if presented civilly, is allowed.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

It is my understanding The Smoking Man shot him from the sewer opening.
Certainly The X-Files told The Truth.

I believe.

OK....I have said my peace........

Any thoughts from you on the subject?

Note......any simple "shut the Mkay up" responses will be deleted.

Honest dissention, of course, if presented civilly, is allowed.

Aside from all the blind alleys and nonsense theories. the underlying fact remains not one person saw another gunman. No other bullets were found, the bullet that hit JFK also hit Connelly. THere is no mystery only a very lucky shot. I've seen 3d recreations and it fits perfectly. Unless someone else with oswalds fingerprints was sitting in the 6th floor window, Ruby got the shooter.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

A lot of people believe their holy book is true and the literal word of god.
A lot of other people believe their other holy book is true and the literal word of god.
When you compare the holy books they are different.
Conclusion, a lot of people, or even all, believe in something false as the truth.

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though we aren't talking about religion here. Just a conspiracy theory that has no evidence other than the faith of individuals in non existent things. Religion requires someone or something with all Omnipotent powers a conspiracy only needs a loose nut to spread the fake information to make it real. eventually the fakeness smooths out and even mainstream folks get caught up in it.

I'd like to think this is more in line with the same folks that believe that the Gov't can't be trusted yet continue to cash their Social security checks.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope