The US Goverment are almost certainly sabotaging the SETI project and the ideal place to do it is at the source of SETI data. Places such as Areceibo used to collect data could be easily sabotaged by the NSA. They dont need to do any damage, just introduce a small virus into the base code software that operates the telescope. The same has also most likely been done at other stations around the world. We all know that UFO's exist and we already know Aliens have visited us on multiple occasions.

Some of us belive that the US Goverment is working with them and even have a base on the dark side of the moon which we never get to see. Just think for a moment before you start laughing at my suggestions. Concider the implications if SETI were to suddenly start tracking un-natural electronic signals eminating from planets within our own Solar System. That would be incredible enough, but what about if those signals included Human voices or Binary type data transmissions used by Humans. How far do you think the goverment would be prepared to go to prevent such discoveries and seccurity breaches, ever heard of the term "Top Secret". Well multiply that term by 1000 times and you have projects so Secret the Goverment will never release information about them EVER !!.

SETI is a system that potentialy could reveal Goverment activity in Space that they dont want us to know about. With the very high volume of UFO sightings throughout the deccades, it seems very very odd that SETI have made no discoveries whatsoever !. Sabotage can be the only answer to this and it needs to be lookled into very throughouly !.

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Two points.

There is not one single shred of evidence that UFO's are alien space craft--not one.
The Government is not likely to to have the organization or the skill to infiltrate the software on any or all of the SETI projects.

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DADDIO

Yeeeahh... I think your a little bit shielded from reality dude. You have no concept of the kind of lengths the US Goverment will go to to prevent its most secret secrets from being made public. As for UFO's the level of evidence proving thier existance is greater than that which convicted Ted Bundy. Many times UFO reports have been made by not just a couple of cookoo heads, but Military Staff, Polititians, Doctors and crowds of people numbering in the hundreds at a time. Photographs, Videos, Radar the list goes on and on. Evidence such as this would be all that is requiered to convict a Murderer and send him to the Electric Chair. Millions of people around the World pray, give time and money for Mythical Gods. We have no hard evidence that these Gods exist, yet Millions of people devote thier lives to them. So why do you find it so hard to accept somthing as tangiable as other inteligent life comming to visit us ?.

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this is a bit to paranoid for me. I'd suggest not staring at the sun. Every UFO event has been explained as fake or a person misjudging a planes flight line at night or the inability of an individual determine that light reflecting off a planes windows were causing the mystery lights. Of note: No UFO sighting took place before the advent of human flight. the correlation is shocking. Humans are misidentifying planes and weather ballons. If it weren't for crazy speculation about UFO's the History and SCIFI channels wouldn't have much to broadcast at night and on weekends.

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Millions of people around the World pray, give time and money for Mythical Gods. We have no hard evidence that these Gods exist, yet Millions of people devote thier lives to them. So why do you find it so hard to accept somthing as tangiable as other inteligent life comming to visit us ?.

You don't know the astrophysics, you don't know the science.
You have to study so much.

«What is affirmed without test, he can be denied without test»
Euclide, 365-275.... BEFORE C. = XXIV (24) centuries ago

21st Century Schizoid Man, the paranoia is a psychiatric illness.

IMVHO UFOs believers are great misfortune for serious & scientific SETI
(and OFF TOPIC in SETI@home Science message board).

@ young people: 21st Century Schizoid Man is a very good song
by Peter Sinfield, Robert Fripp, Ian McDonald, Greg Lake, Michael Giles - King Crimson
http://cfivarese.altervista.org/SI_21st_Century_Schizoid_Man.html


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this is a bit to paranoid for me. I'd suggest not staring at the sun. Every UFO event has been explained as fake or a person misjudging a planes flight line at night or the inability of an individual determine that light reflecting off a planes windows were causing the mystery lights. Of note: No UFO sighting took place before the advent of human flight. the correlation is shocking. Humans are misidentifying planes and weather ballons. If it weren't for crazy speculation about UFO's the History and SCIFI channels wouldn't have much to broadcast at night and on weekends.

You can go on beliving that if you wish to do so. But some of us actualy know the truth because we have personaly witnessed it. Myself and my Wife have both witnessed things which cannot be atributed to anything man made or to naturaly occuring phenomena. I saw what I saw with as much clarity as holding an apple in my hand. If you tried to tell me the apple was actualy a beach ball, im not going to belive you am I ?. But people like you would still say it was a beach ball even after you had a bite from it. Well I can tell you for fact that what I and many others have seen is nothing like what you childishley wrote above. I have a tested IQ of 135 my wife's IQ is 132. We are not geniuses but were are certainly not stupid so please dont try to suggest that we are !!

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Could someone please show me some credible photographs, perhaps credible video film of spaceships.

Please.

Could someone please show me some credible photographs, perhaps credible video film of spaceships.

Please.

Its not our job in this world to show you the evidence, you have to look for it yourself. 99% of sightings are fakes and mistakes. But since there are many thousands of sightings that leaves a very significant number of still unexplained events. If you want a starting place for any research try this.

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk

These are UFO files released by the UK goverment. Many involving Military staff and equipment.

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Could someone please show me some credible photographs, perhaps credible video film of spaceships.

Please.

U.S. pilot was ordered to shoot down UFO
Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:27am EDT

LONDON (Reuters) - Two U.S. fighter planes were scrambled and ordered to shoot down an unidentified flying object (UFO) over the English countryside during the Cold War, according to secret files made public on Monday.

One pilot said he was seconds away from firing 24 rockets at the object, which moved erratically and gave a radar reading like "a flying aircraft carrier."

The pilot, Milton Torres, now 77 and living in Miami, said it spent periods motionless in the sky before reaching estimated speeds of more than 7,600 mph.

After the alert, a shadowy figure told Torres he must never talk about the incident and he duly kept silent for more than 30 years.

His story was among dozens of UFO sightings in defense ministry files released at the National Archives in London.

In a written account, Torres described how he scrambled his F-86 D Sabre jet in calm weather from the Royal Air Force base at Manston, Kent in May 1957.

"I was only a lieutenant and very much aware of the gravity of the situation. I felt very much like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest," he said.

"The order came to fire a salvo of rockets at the UFO. The authentication was valid and I selected 24 rockets.

"I had a lock-on that had the proportions of a flying aircraft carrier," he added. "The larger the airplane, the easier the lock-on. This blip almost locked itself."

At the last moment, the object disappeared from the radar screen and the high-speed chase was called off.

He returned to base and was debriefed the next day by an unnamed man who "looked like a well-dressed IBM salesman."

"He threatened me with a national security breach if I breathed a word about it to anyone," he said.

The documents contain no official explanation for the incident, which came at a time of heightened tension between the West and the Soviet Union. Planes were on constant stand-by at British bases for a possible Soviet attack.

The files blame other UFO sightings on weather balloons, clouds or normal aircraft. Torres said he had been waiting 50 years for an explanation.

"I shall never forget it," he told the Times. "On that night I was ordered to open fire even before I had taken off. That had never happened before."

UFO expert David Clarke said the sighting may have been part of a secret U.S. project to create phantom aircraft on radar screens to test Soviet air defenses.

"Perhaps what this pilot had seen was some kind of experiment in electronic warfare or maybe it was a UFO," he said. "Something very unusual happened."

The files are online at: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos

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I have a tested IQ of 135 my wife's IQ is 132.

Above or under zero?

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So, I bring a maclaren sports car to an african village that hasn't seen a car.
A man has a gun among tribesman of a not known amazon village.
Claims.

I think fact will settle argument. Claim is just that.

Could someone please show me some credible photographs, perhaps credible video film of spaceships.

Please.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fC0ZBAjREOM

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Could someone please show me some credible photographs, perhaps credible video film of spaceships.

Please.

WATCH THIS !!


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fC0ZBAjREOM


Just watch it !

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Here is another report by credible personel.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rCdpmLq_o

Watch and learn

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WATCH THIS !!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fC0ZBAjREOM

"tested IQ of 135" (above or under zero?)
this is do it yourself eroticism (in public).


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Actual voice reccording by Military personel from Rendlesham Forrest.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sSXu3g2T-a8

Well worth a listen

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I beleive George Carlin said it best, (I paraphrase) " Any intelligent live in space would certainly have seen our news casts. How would a world such as ours explain to ET why mothers dump their babies in garbage dumpsters.

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In during sh*t-storm.

No UFO sighting took place before the advent of human flight. the correlation is shocking. Humans are misidentifying planes and weather ballons. If it weren't for crazy speculation about UFO's the History and SCIFI channels wouldn't have much to broadcast at night and on weekends.

Throughout history there have been documentations of things seen in the sky. The ancient Egyptians documented lights in the sky, the Bible is full of "sightings" if you will, the Greeks, Romans all have. Whether these were optical phenomena, meteors, comets, or "ET"... (maybe it was an angle?) The fact is that there are some things we see that we can't always explain.

As far a government cover-up, it's possible, but not probable. I'm sure the US has better conspiracies to cover up than Arecibo receving signals from other worlds.

For UFOs believers, logic is an useless optional!

First problem:
but... if the aliens is here now, why Viking Warrior is a SETI@home user?
The answer my friend required IQ > 1500 or blowin' in the wind!

Second problem:
if US government cover-up Arecibo aliens...
are Dan Werthimer, David Anderson, Eric Korpela & Co.
that cover-up Arecibo aliens discovery!

Are SETI@home (accomplice of BUSH government) that cover-up Arecibo ET discovery!

ROTFL


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