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MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
A fleet of Russian warships sets sail for joint exercises in Venezuela, unprecedented since the Cold War. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7628899.stm . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
rebest Send message Joined: 16 Apr 00 Posts: 1296 Credit: 45,357,093 RAC: 0 |
A fleet of Russian warships sets sail for joint exercises in Venezuela, unprecedented since the Cold War. It's a not-so-subtle message: "If you play in our back yard, we can play in yours." Let's just hope neither side does anything (else) stupid until cooler heads actually stop and think about our long term interests. It's a shame we can't lock Cheney up in an undisclosed location and let him out in February. Join the PACK! |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Reason number two why we didn't just nuke all the innocent men woman and children in the middle east... ;) (And of course, reason number one was that we might have injured the precious OIL reserves.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0 |
A fleet of Russian warships sets sail for joint exercises in Venezuela, unprecedented since the Cold War. you could use quantanamo bay to lock him |
Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0 |
A fleet of Russian warships sets sail for joint exercises in Venezuela, unprecedented since the Cold War. Can you and Jeffey both agree on a common dictator and lock yourselves up instead of threatening our Vice President? K...thanks Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
That's right, way to go. Just keep prodding the sleeping giant with a pointy stick. repeat history, and ignore the warnings of admiral yamamoto just like the japanese emperor did. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
honestly if the Russian navy made it to Venezuela it's a small miracle. Aside from the rusting hulks they call battleships the Russian military is barely capable of attacking a small defenseless country like Georgia. The US already knows that the Russian Navy is as much a threat as the Cuban navy is to America. Of course this is a tactic to remind the US that the Russian can make it to the Gulf of Mexico. What they aren't saying is we are most likely tailing the "fleet" with several hunter/attack submarines that would eliminate the Russians in a heartbeat if they made the slightest provocative move towards the US. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20397 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
honestly if the Russian navy made it to Venezuela it's a small miracle. Aside from the rusting hulks they call battleships the Russian military is ... Quite capable of making quite a mess. barely capable of attacking a small defenseless country like Georgia. ... And routed the defenders long before the slumbering giants of Europe and America had even woken up to the lost war. ... slightest provocative move towards the US. There's still enough nukes around to destroy the Earth even faster than our Global Warming... Next political dream? Regards, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Matthew Love Send message Joined: 26 Sep 99 Posts: 7763 Credit: 879,151 RAC: 0 |
honestly if the Russian navy made it to Venezuela it's a small miracle. Aside from the rusting hulks they call battleships the Russian military is ... Missiles of October all over again! LETS BEGIN IN 2010 |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
the Russian military is barely capable of attacking a small defenseless country Like Iraq... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
peanut Send message Joined: 1 Feb 07 Posts: 372 Credit: 1,951,576 RAC: 0 |
Chavez is worried about the USA's intentions and he likely has good reason to be. I'm sure Chavez is going to get friendly with Russia as extra insurance against USA imperialism. The Revolution will not be Televised A little video on Chavez and his strife with the USA. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Since nationalizing most of the Venezuelan economy, Chavez is sitting on a rate of growth that rivals that of China. Is there a lesson to be learned about spreading the wealth? I don't blame him one bit for getting friendly with the Russians. |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Since nationalizing most of the Venezuelan economy, Chavez is sitting on a rate of growth that rivals that of China. And like the majority of the Chinese and Russians, the majority of Venezuela's citizens live in poverty. Average income of less than $7,500 a year and a negative net migration rate (that means more people leave than emigrate to Venezuela). Sounds like a great place, huh? ...but hey, you just keep right on pretending that folks can't see through your BS... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
And once again, you have stated the average income, but neglected to state the cost of living... ;) ...but hey, you just keep right on pretending that folks can't see through your BS... It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
And once again, you have stated the average income, but neglected to state the cost of living... ;) I didn't think I needed to point out that grass huts cost less than brick homes... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
I didn't think I needed to point out that grass huts cost less than brick homes... Brick homes? You really are out of touch with reality... ;) (Or were you referring to those fifty year old relics? LMAO) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
peanut Send message Joined: 1 Feb 07 Posts: 372 Credit: 1,951,576 RAC: 0 |
I heard on the radio that our Treasury Secretary Mr. Paulson went to Russia recently begging for money to help his intended bailout for his brothers on Wall Street. Seems like the Russians must not be so poor, or why would Mr. Paulson go begging to them? Russia is loaded right now because they have something real the world needs. All the USA has is Tbills and a fiat currency. |
rebest Send message Joined: 16 Apr 00 Posts: 1296 Credit: 45,357,093 RAC: 0 |
I heard on the radio that our Treasury Secretary Mr. Paulson went to Russia recently begging for money to help his intended bailout for his brothers on Wall Street. Seems like the Russians must not be so poor, or why would Mr. Paulson go begging to them? Russia is loaded right now because they have something real the world needs. All the USA has is Tbills and a fiat currency. One only has to look at a map to see that Russia is anything but poor. The country is immense; covering 11 time zones. Thanks to decades of communism and corruption, Russia's vast natural resources have been terribly mismanaged. I have no love for Czar Vladimir I, but so far they have kept the Russian economy on the rails and moving forward. The US needs to stop patting itself on back for "winning" the Cold War. That was nearly 20 years ago. We need to start thinking about the world in 2029. Russia is going to be a major player. Join the PACK! |
Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0 |
usa is loaned from other countries billions of dollars, should they do the same |
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