oh guy i have a challenge for you.
i have 2 scrap pc's:
one is a 450 pIII slot 1
the other is a hybrid
it has a:
Intel Celeron Socket 370 cpu and a slot1 cpu empty
sSpec Number:SL46S
CPU Speed:533 MHz
PCG:
Bus Speed:66 MHz
Bus/Core Ratio:8
L2 Cache Size:128 KB
L2 Cache Speed:533A MHz


Package Type:FC-PGA
Manufacturing Technology:0.18 micron
Core Stepping:CB0
CPUID String:0683
Thermal Design Power:11.2W
Thermal Specification:90°C
Core Voltage:1.5V


now the fun part
can i put the slot 1 cpu in too so it has both and would it use both?
i have a mouse and keyboard and 3 128 sdram chips, and a 13gb hdd
but no extra monitor.
i also have 4 network cards and cables
and my:
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+

can i link them together somehow? and use both cpu's on the old pc? to run nothing but seti?

glad of any imput you guys have.
thanx
Sammie xXx

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Not exactly sure what you're asking, but if you're asking "Can you use a Slot 1 PIII 450MHz together with a Socket 370 Celeron 533 on the same board that has both a slot one and Socket 370, making it a dual CPU system?"

The answer is no. First and foremost, the board must be designed specifically for dual processor. Those boards designed with a Slot 1 and Socket 370 were made for people that still had Slot 1 CPUs and wanted to eventually upgrade to Socket 370 - but both connections were never meant to be used together.

Second, each CPU must be of the same stepping (or within one stepping of each other). They must also be of the same type (PIII with PIII, Xeon with Xeon, Celeron with Celeron, though Celeron's were never meant to do dual CPU configurations and the supporting architecture was taken out of most recent Celerons so that it can't happen, thus protecting Intel's profit margins on their higher end CPUs).

Hope that helps!

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Not exactly sure what you're asking, but if you're asking "Can you use a Slot 1 PIII 450MHz together with a Socket 370 Celeron 533 on the same board that has both a slot one and Socket 370, making it a dual CPU system?"

The answer is no. First and foremost, the board must be designed specifically for dual processor. Those boards designed with a Slot 1 and Socket 370 were made for people that still had Slot 1 CPUs and wanted to eventually upgrade to Socket 370 - but both connections were never meant to be used together.

Second, each CPU must be of the same stepping (or within one stepping of each other). They must also be of the same type (PIII with PIII, Xeon with Xeon, Celeron with Celeron, though Celeron's were never meant to do dual CPU configurations and the supporting architecture was taken out of most recent Celerons so that it can't happen, thus protecting Intel's profit margins on their higher end CPUs).

Hope that helps!

ok that helps me so i can use the one or the other cpu, but not both at the same time, now how do i hook it up to work withong a monitor, just added to my athlon on the side?

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ok that helps me so i can use the one or the other cpu, but not both at the same time, now how do i hook it up to work withong a monitor, just added to my athlon on the side?

Once you have the old timer setup and running you can control BOINC on it by just setting it up on your LAN and using the Stock BOINC Manager or a third party frontend like BoincView.

There's a few details like setting up the RPC authorization file and such, but the Wiki covers those pretty well, and BoincView has pretty good instructions too.

Alinator

ok that helps me so i can use the one or the other cpu, but not both at the same time, now how do i hook it up to work withong a monitor, just added to my athlon on the side?

Once you have the old timer setup and running you can control BOINC on it by just setting it up on your LAN and using the Stock BOINC Manager or a third party frontend like BoincView.

There's a few details like setting up the RPC authorization file and such, but the Wiki covers those pretty well, and BoincView has pretty good instructions too.

Alinator

ok so i dont have to have the monitor connected to it to work, just to set it up and get it running?
and once it is running i just use boinc to run on it, and does it matter if the os is diffrent? i have win98se or winME i can install in it.

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Correct, and either SE or ME should work, your preference.

One other possibility is to get a KVM switch off eBay, or something. That has some advantages over the "headless" route, especially with 9x. ;-)

Alinator

Correct, and either SE or ME should work, your preference.

One other possibility is to get a KVM switch off eBay, or something. That has some advantages over the "headless" route, especially with 9x. ;-)

Alinator

whats one of them and what does it do?

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It's a little box that lets two or more PC's share the same keyboard, monitor, and mouse. Pretty handy little gadgets, but can be pricey when new. Usually you can get a good deal on one on eBay for the two and four port jobs.

One thing I should have mentioned was you may have to set the BIOS to ignore POST problems like no keyboard, no video adapter, etc. if you have to swap them back to your main box after setting up the old timer, but that's not usually a big deal either.

Alinator

It's a little box that lets two or more PC's share the same keyboard, monitor, and mouse. Pretty handy little gadgets, but can be pricey when new. Usually you can get a good deal on one on eBay for the two and four port jobs.

One thing I should have mentioned was you may have to set the BIOS to ignore POST problems like no keyboard, no video adapter, etc. if you have to swap them back to your main box after setting up the old timer, but that's not usually a big deal either.

Alinator

Will Windows actually start without a graphics card? That could come handy :o)


Regards Hans

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well i was planning to get it running, and then just pull the plug in the monitor, i have extra mouse and KB that i can leave in it,

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I AM NOT FAT! I AM BIG-BONED!

Now that you mention it, I'm not sure about the video, although I'm pretty sure there's a reg hack to get around the mouse and keyboard.

I guess I can try on one of mine that's running off it's built in graphics. It's set up to boot to the default desktop in 9x and starts the command line version BOINC with a batch file, so it should be easy for me to test it by just disabling the onboard graphics and not Halting on POST issues. Of couse it has a Phoenix BIOS so it may not let me do that (now I remember why I like Award BIOS'es more). :-)

Alinator

this old guy has Award bios in it

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well i was planning to get it running, and then just pull the plug in the monitor, i have extra mouse and KB that i can leave in it,

That I know works, since I have a couple set up that way. Although most monitor and graphics card manufacturer's would probably frown on that. ;-)

Still, I'm planning to get a KVM swtich for those two as well, but just haven't gotten around to it yet, just to reduce clutter in that location.

Just turn the monitor off before you swap the cable to be on the safe side.

Alinator

i have a graphics card that will fit in it, and i think it has one built in, there is a gold cpu sized chip/heatsink with GFXcel on it.

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this old guy has Award bios in it

Well it would seem that you're in pretty good shape for a resurrection then. :-)

I might give the Slot 1 PIII a try first. I have Slot 1 550 PIII Katmai and it does fairly well for itself on both SAH and EAH. The Celery might not do as well even though its faster (both clock and cache speed) it only has half the L2 of the full PIII. Wouldn't hurt to try both though and see what comes out in the wash. ;-)

Alinator

An alternative to using a KVM switch is to use VNC software, such as TightVNC. It allows you to control multiple computers from a single computer over the network. This helps cut down on the needed hardware but you'll use up network bandwidth and some possibly some processor power to run the VNC client/server.

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An alternative to using a KVM switch is to use VNC software, such as TightVNC. It allows you to control multiple computers from a single computer over the network. This helps cut down on the needed hardware but you'll use up network bandwidth and some possibly some processor power to run the VNC client/server.

Cool... thanks, I've been looking for one which would run on 9x. Most of them nowadays have dropped 9x support, or at least the ones I've been looking at.

Other folks have mentioned it here as well, guess I glossed over the 9x part, LOL.

Alinator

An alternative to using a KVM switch is to use VNC software, such as TightVNC. It allows you to control multiple computers from a single computer over the network. This helps cut down on the needed hardware but you'll use up network bandwidth and some possibly some processor power to run the VNC client/server.

ok thats kool i got that,
i cant find a name of the motherboard
it has a
sis 950 chip

GFXcel pc133 gold thingy on it, cpu size heatsink

amibios AF45 0454
on it

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well i was planning to get it running, and then just pull the plug in the monitor, i have extra mouse and KB that i can leave in it,

That would work. That's how the majority of all my systems are set up. I simply boot them, unplug the monitor and let them crunch.

If I want to check on them, I simply use RealVNC to see how they're doing.

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ok thats kool i got that,
i cant find a name of the motherboard
it has a
sis 950 chip

GFXcel pc133 gold thingy on it, cpu size heatsink

amibios AF45 0454
on it

My guess is that it's a PC Chips board. They aren't the great board manufacturers out there, and they never put their brand on it (I guess they're afraid of someone coming after them! LOL). I'm sure if it worked before, it'll work again. ;)

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