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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
I was fiddling about with my computer and my network, (I actually saw a neighbour's wireless connection, I could log myself on, but I have my own secure and encrypted, thankyouverymuch! (Thanks Pete(CW), for helping me doing that!)), and then I stumbled over a program, I don't remember I've installed, and which I had no idea of what's doing! It was this program: C:\\Programmer\\Bonjour\\mDNSResponder.exe I googled it and found this thread in a board discussing this: Gizmo Project and Bonjour, and it's very nice information that comes up there! NOT! I love iTunes myself, and I use it as my favorite musicplayer, and I have QuickTime as my favorite movieplayer, but it's pretty lame of Apple to put programs like that Bonjour in my computer without letting me know, and letting it run as a stealth program! It doesn't even show in my programlist to remove! I wonder how many other of these crummy programs I have installed?! EDIT: More links about Bonjour: ProcessLibrary.com Forum - hijack list.. had some worms think i got rid of them... And from Apple's own board: Apple - Support - Discussions - Bonjour for Windows "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
David@home Send message Joined: 16 Jan 03 Posts: 755 Credit: 5,040,916 RAC: 28 |
Digital Rights Management (DRM) is a big area of discussion and contention at the moment. It was recently discovered that Sony were using some questionable techniques on some of their CDs that essentailly installed a rootkit on your PC to hide the DRM software. Unfortunately malware authors can use this same rootkit to hide their software too. If you have copied any Sony BMG CDS to your PC best check out this story http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4441928.stm. Latest news on the web is that the recall has not yet happened and the CDs are still in circulation. |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Yes, but this can be prevented by yourself with a small piece of Scotch tape. I have copied some cd's lately, so I most probably have this installed also, I haven't checked yet. But from what I read, it's pretty difficult to remove! But I'll look into the links on the bbc site! Thanks! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
I found this link from Sony about their BMG protected cd's. SOFTWARE UPDATES/ PLUG-INS It also said in the BBC article that Sony's controversial anti-piracy CD software has been labelled as spyware by Microsoft. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
kinhull Send message Joined: 3 Oct 03 Posts: 1029 Credit: 636,475 RAC: 0 |
Yes, but this can be prevented by yourself with a small piece of Scotch tape. How do people know or discover to do these things? :) I would have thought adding tape would potentially damage the cd player. You learn something new every day :) Join TeamACC Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. |
AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0 |
It probly has to do with itunes installation. Here's more info from Apple about this. You should check out a util called Security Task Manager. It monitors program activity on your system. |
Daniel Michel Send message Joined: 2 Feb 04 Posts: 14925 Credit: 1,378,607 RAC: 6 |
It probly has to do with itunes installation. Here's more info from Apple about this. i know i had a previous version of itunes that included bonjour...it was screaming at my firewall to get on the internet because i blocked it...later versions appear to not to have this controversial item... PROUD TO BE TFFE! |
AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0 |
It probly has to do with itunes installation. Here's more info from Apple about this. I think your probly right about that because I installed the new Quick Time w/itunes just yesterday, and after reading Fuzzy's post I checked my system and couldn't find it. Looks like Apple decided to get rid of it. |
Celtic Wolf Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3278 Credit: 595,676 RAC: 0 |
It probly has to do with itunes installation. Here's more info from Apple about this. And SONY has agreed to remove their crap too, but the damage has already been done. You would have thought they would have learned from VHS and Cassette when they tried to prevent them for being copied. I removed iTunes from my system and refuse to put it back on. I won't buy a Sony BMG CD either.. |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
Apple Itunes puts on a lot of crap. cntrl-alt-delete look in your task manager and you'll find at least 3 processes running for them. Which remindes me.. I need to turn those off at startup. |
grumpy Send message Joined: 2 Jun 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 152,987 RAC: 0 |
Hate that kind of crap software ! I found some info on this process and apple is not the only one using it. (it may be called other names :'Rendezvous', 'Bonjour' 'ZeroConf') It seems to be logged has a "process" that has to be turns off before removing it. You can disable it by making the property "disabled". Some project like gizmo as an utility to turn it off http://gizmoproject.com/jasmine/TurnOffBonjour.exe. Problem with this services is, that it may take a lot cpu cycles for something you don't care about! ***************************************************************** |
Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0 |
I'm a Mac cruncher, but I also run PC's. I had QT on one for my PC machines, and discovered iTunes, iPod, and Bonjour had backdoored. Nothing new, and I didn't think at the time of mentioning it. Oh, well. All those goodies are native to Tiger, where I run QT v7 Pro. Account frozen... |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
bonjour and ipodservice you have to also uncheck in your services or they will still spawn a process even if you uncheck them in startup. run msconfig but only if you really know what you're doing. otherwise we might not be hearing from you for a while. :/ |
AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0 |
And SONY has agreed to remove their crap too, but the damage has already been done. You would have thought they would have learned from VHS and Cassette when they tried to prevent them for being copied. I don't even know why they're selling music anyways. Shouldn't they be making things like TV's and radios, hmm. The only thing I like in my music files is the music... and maye things like album info and lyrics. When there's stuff like DRM in them it's like you're being watched or something. The Sony DRM is even worse because it's like a hacker rootkit. I removed itunes after I got the last Quick Time player and I did it again today since it came bundled with the newer version of Quick Time I downloaded yesterday. I'm also not buying sony cd's anymore. |
grumpy Send message Joined: 2 Jun 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 152,987 RAC: 0 |
check your printers too! "No Wizardry Necessary Since Apple introduced Bonjour technology in 2002, every major printer manufacturer has adopted the technology so you can add and remove such machines from networks without configuration. When you add your Mac to a network, Mac OS X will then automatically discover and connect to the available Bonjour-enabled printers and you’re ready to print. Also, innovative cameras may include wireless networking to download pictures, perfect for spycams. To setup these devices, simply navigate to the Bonjour bookmark in Safari." http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bonjour/ |
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