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Message 196982 - Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:16:06 UTC
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Just take a look in any thread longer than 75 post, and sort by the imho normal way of "newest first". You just see the newest post, and the real old stuff.
Please fix it fast!

It hasn't been tested at "Break the forum", otherwise it would not have been implemented this crappy way methinks.
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Message 196983 - Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:18:47 UTC

YEAH what Saenger sead:)
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Message 196984 - Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:19:26 UTC - in response to Message 196982.  
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a classic example of a backwards implementation.
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This also does not work with the ignore/filter feature. When you click the link to show the posts filtered out by this feature the ignore filter is in effect. When you click to unfilter a person then the 75 post feature goes back into effect. They are not compatable with each other.
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Message 196988 - Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:22:58 UTC - in response to Message 196982.  

Just take a look in any thread longer than 75 post, and sort by the imho normal way of "newest first". You just see the newest post, and the real old stuff.
Please fix it fast!

It hasn't been tested at "Break the forum", otherwise it would not have been implemented this crappy way methinks.


I think what they were going for was the first post and then the newest 75. But if that was what they wanted it came out backwards.
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Message 196992 - Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:25:12 UTC - in response to Message 196988.  
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I think what they were going for was the first post and then the newest 75. But if that was what they wanted it came out backwards.


It comes out the right way if you sort by oldest first. You can change the setting in your forum preferences to a higher number than 75.

[Edit: Looks like you are only allowed to view 75% of the posts in a thread at most. So if you want to view 300 posts in a thread set the thread length to 400]
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Message 197008 - Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:31:36 UTC - in response to Message 196992.  



I think what they were going for was the first post and then the newest 75. But if that was what they wanted it came out backwards.


It comes out the right way if you sort by oldest first. You can change the setting in your forum preferences to a higher number than 75.

[Edit: Looks like you are only allowed to view 75% of the posts in a thread at most. So if you want to view 300 posts in a thread set the thread length to 400]

Well I could set to oldest first but why should anyone who sorts by newest first be forced to change? Or I could change my post number preferences but that's just a work around... it'll still load the entire thread.
I like the *IDEA* of this but it only works for the oldest first sort.
Whereas the oldest = post #1. With mine set as newest = last post # whatever it doesnt work.
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Message 197014 - Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 21:34:51 UTC - in response to Message 196992.  
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[Edit: Looks like you are only allowed to view 75% of the posts in a thread at most. So if you want to view 300 posts in a thread set the thread length to 400]


I changed to 300/300, and it seems to work.

I like the Idea though, just not the implementation. Seeing just the starter and the whatever newest would be fine, I think I'll set mine to 50, but it has to work in all kind of sortings. I really dont now how to achieve it with "highest ranking first", but on the other hand: who needs this sorting anyway? :)
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Message 197139 - Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 22:57:16 UTC
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It works for me (now). I saw this in my forum preferences last night and had to guess what it was for, because there were no leading text for the new fields, so I entered 300. Today I changed both to 999/300. I've always sorted threads with newest first and testing it on the BOTD thread, it looks as if all is sorted in descending order by date. I guess this new thin only kicks in if number of posts in a thread is larger than your settings?

[EDIT]Just changed it to 999/400 - to be on the safe side. :)[/EDIT]

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Message 197617 - Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 13:53:51 UTC
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It didn't correctly take sorting order into consideration. This was fixed in CVS just a few hours after it was reported the first time. However there's a short lag between fixing stuff in CVS and actually deploying it on the live projects.

We are in the process of changing the deployment path for the webbased frontend to optimize the time it takes to deploy changes. Optimally it should go from the current 1-5 days down to just 1-5 mins.

Sorry about the confusion in the meanwhile.
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Message 197652 - Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 15:29:52 UTC - in response to Message 197139.  

It works for me (now). I saw this in my forum preferences last night and had to guess what it was for, because there were no leading text for the new fields, so I entered 300. Today I changed both to 999/300. I've always sorted threads with newest first and testing it on the BOTD thread, it looks as if all is sorted in descending order by date. I guess this new thin only kicks in if number of posts in a thread is larger than your settings?

[EDIT]Just changed it to 999/400 - to be on the safe side. :)[/EDIT]



good idea!...i've done the same to neutralize the changes...

i'm sure there will be some confusion this morning as people run into this in the longer threads...

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Message 197682 - Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 16:27:50 UTC - in response to Message 197652.  
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It works for me (now). I saw this in my forum preferences last night and had to guess what it was for, because there were no leading text for the new fields, so I entered 300. Today I changed both to 999/300. I've always sorted threads with newest first and testing it on the BOTD thread, it looks as if all is sorted in descending order by date. I guess this new thin only kicks in if number of posts in a thread is larger than your settings?

[EDIT]Just changed it to 999/400 - to be on the safe side. :)[/EDIT]



good idea!...i've done the same to neutralize the changes...

i'm sure there will be some confusion this morning as people run into this in the longer threads...


well i thought i was okay...now i'm seeing other threads appear above the "stickied" Rocky's...in both FIREFOX and IE...oh well.


Never mind about the stickies...i now know what it means to not "reorder" the stickies.

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Message 198308 - Posted: 29 Nov 2005, 6:10:57 UTC - in response to Message 197139.  

It works for me (now). I saw this in my forum preferences last night and had to guess what it was for, because there were no leading text for the new fields, so I entered 300. Today I changed both to 999/300. I've always sorted threads with newest first and testing it on the BOTD thread, it looks as if all is sorted in descending order by date. I guess this new thin only kicks in if number of posts in a thread is larger than your settings?

[EDIT]Just changed it to 999/400 - to be on the safe side. :)[/EDIT]



if you are having trouble with the changes on the boards...try this!

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Message 198917 - Posted: 29 Nov 2005, 22:37:14 UTC

Sorting order for the "last X posts only"-feature should now be correct.
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Message 198925 - Posted: 29 Nov 2005, 22:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 198917.  

Sorting order for the "last X posts only"-feature should now be correct.


Thank you Janus. That seems to be working nicely now. :-)
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Message 199132 - Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 3:35:33 UTC - in response to Message 197014.  

I changed to 300/300, and it seems to work.


I just set mine to 500/500. I don't think thread posts will get higher than that.

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Message 199146 - Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 3:50:35 UTC - in response to Message 199132.  

I know of one greater than 800.
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Message 199178 - Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 4:57:48 UTC - in response to Message 199146.  
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I know of one greater than 800.


I just found it. It's BOTD on page 10. It took my browser more than 2 minutes to load it. Guess I'll change the setting to 999/999 then. [edit] Nevermind, I tried setting it at 1000/1000 and it works. [/edit]

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Message 199184 - Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 5:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 199178.  

Took me exactly 17 seconds. :)
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Message 199343 - Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 12:49:23 UTC - in response to Message 199184.  

Took me exactly 17 seconds. :)


22.312 seconds for me.

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Message 199668 - Posted: 1 Dec 2005, 0:36:33 UTC

If, for some reason, you whish to disable the feature you can just set it to 0 (at least that was the idea).
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