One Giant Leap For Mankind (backwards)

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Ted A Gavinski Send message Joined: 2 May 01 Posts: 10 Credit: 4,408 RAC: 0	Message 183931 - Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 8:10:26 UTC One Giant Leap For Mankind (backwards) Reuters reported today(Reuters) how the debate over the teaching of the "Intellegent Design" that has some scientists warning that this trend threatens achedemics and science. "Among the most significant forces is the rising tide of anti-science sentiment that seems to have its nucleus in Washington but which extends throughout the nation," said Philip Pizzo, Dean of the Stanford University School of Medicine. Hunter Rawlings, acting President of Cornell University , speaking about the challenge to science represented by "intelligent design" which holds that the theory of evolution accepted by the vast majority of scientists is fatally flawed, said, "When ideological division replaces informed exchange, dogma is the result and education suffers." Rawlings also said that the dispute was widening political, social, religious and philosophical rifts in U.S. society. Also, Entrepreneur wrote in its November 2005 issue,(Entrepreneur Article) that only 6% of American undergraduate degrees were in natural sciences or engineering. Furthermore, only 29% of the papers presented in the top physics journals were by American scientists. American teens ranked 24th of 29 in basic math skills. The United States is losing its innovative edge. We are regressing technologically by leaps and bounds. It is to our shame if we allow this to continue. We put men on the Moon and brought them back alive with technology that pales by today's standards, using computers that can not compete with today's video games. This must be remedied. We should all work together to fund and support education and the sciences. Let us halt this great backward leap. Please join us at The United Federation Foundation to help halt this shamefull back-slide ID: 183931 ·

AC Send message Joined: 22 Jan 05 Posts: 3413 Credit: 119,579 RAC: 0	Message 184035 - Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 15:06:14 UTC Hi Ted. Check out my opinion about this in my response to your post at Science. ID: 184035 ·

ghstwolf Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Oct 04 Posts: 322 Credit: 55,806 RAC: 0	Message 184085 - Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 16:43:29 UTC - in response to Message 183931. One Giant Leap For Mankind (backwards) We should all work together to fund and support education and the sciences. Let us halt this great backward leap. Please join us at The United Federation Foundation to help halt this shamefull back-slide It's not the funding of Education that is the problem. The money is there for sciences, but there needs to be an emphasis on it. For all the bitching about funding, throwing more money at it will not help. We need a better solution. A move back to a pure academics, but to do this we need a million small changes in how we currently operate. First on this list, is to stop wasting time. Math, science, and history all fail this test. Too much time is spent revisiting concepts without any advance. Year to year students change diciplines, with little to no continuity. History is a bit more obvious (but the principle is the same). Every time American history starts it means starting back at square one, because atleast 2yrs have passed between (BTW, what happened after the Civil war? ;) ). And worse the detail never really increases, same events are covered, in the same way. Now if you put 2 yrs together, the civil war wouldn't be the ending point. Science would benefit from the same approach, as would math. Still looking for something profound or inspirational to place here. ID: 184085 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 184164 - Posted: 30 Oct 2005, 19:50:15 UTC Last modified: 30 Oct 2005, 19:53:11 UTC More spam from the United Federation Foundation. Speaking of which.. whatever happened to that 911 conspiracy dude? ID: 184164 ·

Darth Dogbytes™ Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0	Message 184308 - Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 2:49:44 UTC - in response to Message 184164. More spam from the United Federation Foundation. Speaking of which.. whatever happened to that 911 conspiracy dude? You forgot the 411 conspiracy, paying for useless information. Account frozen... ID: 184308 ·

Ted A Gavinski Send message Joined: 2 May 01 Posts: 10 Credit: 4,408 RAC: 0	Message 184331 - Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 4:35:57 UTC - in response to Message 184164. More spam from the United Federation Foundation. Speaking of which.. whatever happened to that 911 conspiracy dude? # Spam (food), a brand of canned meat sold by Hormel. # Spam (Monty Python), a comedy sketch involving this meat, which in turn gave rise to the sense below. # Spam (electronic), unsolicited or undesired bulk electronic messages, such as e-mail spam. # Street spam, a.k.a. Flyposting, illegal blanket advertising in public places. To which do you refer? I've offered no canned pork, nor have I refered anyone to the Minister of Silly Walks. No bulk messages were sent. I'm neither adversiting, soliciting business nor am I asking for funding or compensation. Again I ask you: What spam? ID: 184331 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 184348 - Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 6:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 184331. the Minister of Silly Walks. Guido is in da house? ID: 184348 ·

ghstwolf Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Oct 04 Posts: 322 Credit: 55,806 RAC: 0	Message 184585 - Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 23:39:11 UTC - in response to Message 184331. # Spam (food), a brand of canned meat sold by Hormel. # Spam (Monty Python), a comedy sketch involving this meat, which in turn gave rise to the sense below. # Spam (electronic), unsolicited or undesired bulk electronic messages, such as e-mail spam. # Street spam, a.k.a. Flyposting, illegal blanket advertising in public places. To which do you refer? I've offered no canned pork, nor have I refered anyone to the Minister of Silly Walks. No bulk messages were sent. I'm neither adversiting, soliciting business nor am I asking for funding or compensation. Again I ask you: What spam? GW (me)- SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!! Ted-Yes, but I came here for an argument!! GW- OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse! (and so on) Still looking for something profound or inspirational to place here. ID: 184585 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 184594 - Posted: 1 Nov 2005, 0:23:46 UTC - in response to Message 184585. GW (me)- SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!! Ted-Yes, but I came here for an argument!! GW- OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse! (and so on) Oh, you mean the Argument Clinic "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 184594 ·

ghstwolf Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Oct 04 Posts: 322 Credit: 55,806 RAC: 0	Message 184625 - Posted: 1 Nov 2005, 1:17:13 UTC - in response to Message 184594. Oh, you mean the Argument Clinic Yes I do, those 3 lines seem to translate well to this format. Somehow (even if only in my mind) it fits this thread. Still looking for something profound or inspirational to place here. ID: 184625 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 184633 - Posted: 1 Nov 2005, 1:31:34 UTC - in response to Message 184625. Oh, you mean the Argument Clinic Yes I do, those 3 lines seem to translate well to this format. Somehow (even if only in my mind) it fits this thread. Could also be the Spam Sketch "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 184633 ·

ghstwolf Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Oct 04 Posts: 322 Credit: 55,806 RAC: 0	Message 184640 - Posted: 1 Nov 2005, 1:56:55 UTC - in response to Message 184633. Last modified: 1 Nov 2005, 1:57:22 UTC Could also be the Spam Sketch I would agree, if I had concluded that this was "spam". I've been slacking in reading the several of the forums I usually read, so I haven't noticed the UFF before (they still have "benefit of the doubt" with me). Besides "the Spam Sketch" is a bit to obvious here, (insert some cleaver segway, I cannot think of right now) No one expects the Spainish Inquisition. Still looking for something profound or inspirational to place here. ID: 184640 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 184654 - Posted: 1 Nov 2005, 2:31:12 UTC - in response to Message 184640. Last modified: 1 Nov 2005, 2:31:37 UTC I would agree, if I had concluded that this was "spam". I've been slacking in reading the several of the forums I usually read, so I haven't noticed the UFF before (they still have "benefit of the doubt" with me). Besides "the Spam Sketch" is a bit to obvious here, (insert some cleaver segway, I cannot think of right now) No one expects the Spainish Inquisition. You don't want it then? The Spanish Inquisition "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 184654 ·

Francis Noel Send message Joined: 30 Aug 05 Posts: 452 Credit: 142,832,523 RAC: 94	Message 185507 - Posted: 3 Nov 2005, 21:47:33 UTC But... No one expects the spanish inquisition ! mambo ID: 185507 ·

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