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Message 191787 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 6:29:54 UTC - in response to Message 191502.  

I don't like running more than one Boinc project on a computer. I don't like the way they are divided up.

You determine what percentage of time is spent on each project; as has been discussed to death in other threads at any given instance it may appear the percentages aren't being honoured but over the long term they will be.
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Message 191941 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 17:46:47 UTC - in response to Message 191787.  

I don't like running more than one Boinc project on a computer. I don't like the way they are divided up.

You determine what percentage of time is spent on each project; as has been discussed to death in other threads at any given instance it may appear the percentages aren't being honoured but over the long term they will be.


Some of us want the percentage honored "all the time", not having to wait for long term.....
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Message 191946 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 18:00:29 UTC - in response to Message 191941.  


Some of us want the percentage honored "all the time", not having to wait for long term.....


Then use the Suspend button and a site like BoincStats that will give you a pie chart of the percentages of granted credit for each project that you're attached to as they relate to the "whole pie"... (not to be confused with whole pi, which is infinite, unless you just mean the whole number portion, which would then be 3) Ah... Math humor... :-)

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Message 191950 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 18:18:33 UTC - in response to Message 191787.  

I don't like running more than one Boinc project on a computer. I don't like the way they are divided up.

You determine what percentage of time is spent on each project; as has been discussed to death in other threads at any given instance it may appear the percentages aren't being honoured but over the long term they will be.



yes I understand the way it works, I just don't like how it stops in the middle of a WU and then goes to another project. I feel it should finish the WU then go to the next project. Just my opinion though.


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Message 191970 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 19:09:32 UTC - in response to Message 191941.  
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...as has been discussed to death in other threads at any given instance it may appear the percentages aren't being honoured but over the long term they will be.


Some of us want the percentage honored "all the time", not having to wait for long term.....

The problem with that approach is missed deadlines, and not just the occasional one either.
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Message 191974 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 19:18:27 UTC - in response to Message 191950.  

yes I understand the way it works, I just don't like how it stops in the middle of a WU and then goes to another project. I feel it should finish the WU then go to the next project. Just my opinion though.

Once again though, the missed deadline problem.

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Message 191986 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 19:54:54 UTC - in response to Message 191974.  

yes I understand the way it works, I just don't like how it stops in the middle of a WU and then goes to another project. I feel it should finish the WU then go to the next project. Just my opinion though.

Once again though, the missed deadline problem.


I don't buy that.

I had a P&H pause today at over 100%......had to be within 5-10 minutes of completion.

No other deadline even close for today.
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Message 192000 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 20:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 191950.  

yes I understand the way it works, I just don't like how it stops in the middle of a WU and then goes to another project. I feel it should finish the WU then go to the next project. Just my opinion though.

In General Preference there is a "switch between projects" time setting, Default is 60, I have mine set to 180 min (3 hours), set yours to however the longest wu takes and you should get what you want.
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Message 192018 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 21:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 192000.  

yes I understand the way it works, I just don't like how it stops in the middle of a WU and then goes to another project. I feel it should finish the WU then go to the next project. Just my opinion though.

In General Preference there is a "switch between projects" time setting, Default is 60, I have mine set to 180 min (3 hours), set yours to however the longest wu takes and you should get what you want.


Sooner or later it is bound to happen anyway.......it can start on the second WU and pause it later, etc.

I've been all over and settled on 90 minutes.

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Message 192032 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 21:42:05 UTC - in response to Message 192018.  

In General Preference there is a "switch between projects" time setting, Default is 60, I have mine set to 180 min (3 hours), set yours to however the longest wu takes and you should get what you want.


Sooner or later it is bound to happen anyway.......it can start on the second WU and pause it later, etc.


Actually, if your switch setting is greater than the longest WU, it will not interrupt a WU just because "the time is up". That time is "reset" whenever any scheduler event occurs - such as finishing a WU. The only way it would then interrupt and switch projects mid-WU is if some _other_ scheduler event happens, like hitting Update, reaching "close to deadline" while needing to report results, needing to download more work, etc. Simple short-term-debt issues won't cause it.
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Message 192052 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 22:08:51 UTC - in response to Message 192032.  

In General Preference there is a "switch between projects" time setting, Default is 60, I have mine set to 180 min (3 hours), set yours to however the longest wu takes and you should get what you want.


Sooner or later it is bound to happen anyway.......it can start on the second WU and pause it later, etc.


Actually, if your switch setting is greater than the longest WU, it will not interrupt a WU just because "the time is up". That time is "reset" whenever any scheduler event occurs - such as finishing a WU. The only way it would then interrupt and switch projects mid-WU is if some _other_ scheduler event happens, like hitting Update, reaching "close to deadline" while needing to report results, needing to download more work, etc. Simple short-term-debt issues won't cause it.


I'm going to have to test this out. I'm guilty of "updating" on occasion to force a completed WU to report. I'll stay away from forcing a report to see if my WUs pause when nearly completed.

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Message 192058 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 22:26:11 UTC - in response to Message 192052.  

I'm guilty of "updating" on occasion to force a completed WU to report.


Yeah, I know better, but every time I see that "ready to report", I hit Update too...
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Message 192082 - Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 23:12:29 UTC

you guys know better than to do that, It just increases the load on an already straining server. I mean really....<looks right, looks left> ....<whistling while having a "who me" look on his face>...<I'm innocent I tell ya>
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Message 192239 - Posted: 23 Nov 2005, 3:18:35 UTC - in response to Message 192082.  

you guys know better than to do that, It just increases the load on an already straining server. I mean really....<looks right, looks left> ....<whistling while having a "who me" look on his face>...<I'm innocent I tell ya>


Wouldn't be necessary if the back-end servers and the result message had been designed to not need the 2nd RPC...

...but I digress...

Carry on... Nothing to see here...
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Message 192839 - Posted: 24 Nov 2005, 1:01:39 UTC
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I set my switch to time to, get this , 6000 to take it completely out of the picture. Also since I'm running uFluid and Burp (not really a Burp problem any more)which does not like to be interupted by the schedular. I have my connect to time set at 0.00001 (or 0.864 sec) so that it will not ask for more work in the middle of running uFluid wu, for this would cause the schedular to start another project's wu and cause all work for uFluid wu to be lost (no checkpoints yet). I was trying to get to sleep a few nights ago and these settings came to me. Got up and implemented them and Ufluid has been happy running along side my other projects ever since :)

EDIT: Making the preferences work for you not against you can be thought-provoking indeed, LoL.
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Message 197396 - Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 4:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 192239.  

you guys know better than to do that, It just increases the load on an already straining server. I mean really....<looks right, looks left> ....<whistling while having a "who me" look on his face>...<I'm innocent I tell ya>


Wouldn't be necessary if the back-end servers and the result message had been designed to not need the 2nd RPC...

...but I digress...

Carry on... Nothing to see here...

Brian,

In the case of SETI, the upload/download machines and the database are different physical machines.

In the case of CPDN, the upload/download machines and the database are in different countries, and even operated by different organizaitons.

Was that a good idea? Dunno, but it was an idea.

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Message 197527 - Posted: 28 Nov 2005, 11:10:20 UTC - in response to Message 197396.  

...In the case of CPDN, the upload/download machines and the database are in different countries, and even operated by different organizaitons.

Was that a good idea? Dunno, but it was an idea.

Worked well until it rained a little and they got one of their feet wet!

:-(

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