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Message 164064 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 22:41:41 UTC

http://www.logistepag.com
http://www.logistepag.com/p2pftp.htm

So Seti is a P2P-Surveillance-Tool. Please Seti-Team, take them to court. You would do 20000 Germans quite a favour ;-)

More details at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63635 (german)
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Message 164070 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 22:56:04 UTC - in response to Message 164064.  

http://www.logistepag.com
http://www.logistepag.com/p2pftp.htm

So Seti is a P2P-Surveillance-Tool. Please Seti-Team, take them to court. You would do 20000 Germans quite a favour ;-)

More details at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63635 (german)


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Thousands of charges against Tauschb?en users because of injury of copyright?rfluten at present the public prosecutor's office Karlsruhe. They were submitted after information of heise on-line by a Karlsruher law office, which co-operates with Swiss enterprise Logistep. Announcement


Logistep specialized according to own data in it, on behalf of right owners copyright infringements in the InterNet aufzusp?n. On its homepage indicates the "anti- Piracy enterprise", it document were fully automated, "which contents?r which period and with which IP address users loaded". As "Full service Dienstleister" k?ere it itself also directly around legal pursuit.

However in June and July more than 20,000 announcements of the Karlsruher kanzlei were received, as the public prosecutor's office on demand best?gte. The law office indicated, per week still about 10,000 announcements after-pushes to k?en, said a criminal investigation department civil servant. However into 12.000 F?en go it around Upload offers of the PC play Earth 2160 in the eDonkey-P2P-Netz. The play is driven out by the manufacturer Zuxxez Entertainment.

Dirk P. Hassinger, Vorstand with Zuxxez, best?gte the agency of Logistep. "immense losses result to us from the exchange of our software in P2P-B?en, which we no more do not accept." Let yourself already now observe, "the fact that the action to that extent gefruchtet than that Earth 2160 in Tauschb?en as no more is not to be found as good and thus the Verk?e is continuously very satisfying."

In the announcements the law office the name of the offered software, the IP address, the emule Nutzkennung of the offerer and the time of the offer f?t on. In which way Logistep determined these data, does not come out after information of the criminal investigation department official from it. It is thus not guaranteed that for example the Timestamp is always correct. Only then however tighten the k?e public prosecutor's office with sufficient security, which user in the period mentioned got the IP address assigned by the Zugangsprovider.

Despite these doubts the public prosecutor's office took up Karlsruhe to all F?en determinations. Logistep requests in each case with an automatically generated E-Mail the Provider of the Verd?tigen to secure the connecting data also in the case of an Flatrate entrance vorl?ig. The Strafermittler queries then after receipt of the announcement the customer data to the IP addresses.

The fact that judges approve Durchsuchungsbeschl?e due to the proof situation w?en is improbable. Therefore the public prosecutor's office sends zun?st only to Anh?ngsb?n to the determined persons. Unabh?ig of it, whether the Verd?tigte admits the act, is offered in most F?en the attitude of the procedure, if he agrees the edition of a cash payment. Which happens, if a Verd?tiger denies the act, is still open. To an accusation it did not come so far yet.

Gegen?r heise on-line wanted the Logistep AG in H? no Ausk?te dar?r give, as their Tauschb?en Scan software works and which data are seized by users in the "live-datenbank". In addition give it at present a "restrictive information barrier", communicated one us by telephone. In some weeks one wants the procedure more exactly erl?ern. One has in Germany already some gro? Customers daf?begeistern k?en. Also the play manufacturer CDV about has at the end of of July 2005 admits given, by Logistep "each determined pirat copy and illegal Vervielf?igung punishing and civilly pursues" to leave. Also enterprises from the music industry are among the again won customers. On the public prosecutor's office thus still each quantity further work d?te comes.

Meanwhile the kanzlei assigned by Logistep k?igte on to request file inspection with the Ermittlungsbeh?en after the Tauschb?en users were determined. The n?ste step of the clients will be therefore, the charges civil Anspr?e, for example liable to pay the costs warnings or demands for payment of damages, follows to leave. The manufacturer Zuxxez best?gte such steps to have already introduced. As payment of damages per Upload of Earth 2160 it estimates 50 euro (main headers/c't)


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Message 164101 - Posted: 7 Sep 2005, 0:04:56 UTC

The impression I get from looking at the page at http://www.logistepag.com/p2pftp.htm is that they are trying to lump Seti into software that is used for illegal purposes (piracy) based on what the site is about. Although they don't list it, they show a screen shot of it which actually can cause more damage to the Seti program than listing it. Not a good ad for Seti and Berkeley should demand the removal of the Seti graphic from the site along with some compensation.


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Message 164282 - Posted: 7 Sep 2005, 11:26:54 UTC
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As both the site and the project are copyrighted there is also an infringement on copyright law, which is to say very bad, SETI should definately look in to this, might be worth a new server or two unless SETI alowed the reference to the project.
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