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Message 164411 - Posted: 7 Sep 2005, 22:05:34 UTC - in response to Message 164399.  


No. In your case you should take a look at your cpu temp first. If everything looks normal you could then try to raise the Vcore, that might stabilize your computer.


OK, installed speedfan and it seems my CPU temperature becomes 81,5 degrees when running BOINC. It's a Athlon XP 2100+ running at 1733MHz. I don't know if it is near any CPU Overheat Protection (COP) treshold.


if thats 81.5C that sounds very high and I'm suprised that your computer works at that temp. many temperture moniters read wrong, esp AMD ,and you need to make an adjustment, most moniters include a list of MBs and you need to select your MB inorder to get a correct reading. Many manufactures have a utility to moniter temp but you need to visit their site and download it,if you dont have it on disk all ready.
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Message 164412 - Posted: 7 Sep 2005, 22:06:27 UTC - in response to Message 164399.  



OK, installed speedfan and it seems my CPU temperature becomes 81,5 degrees when running BOINC. It's a Athlon XP 2100+ running at 1733MHz. I don't know if it is near any CPU Overheat Protection (COP) treshold.


That seems pretty high, My 2100 runs at 60C at 100%. May want to check your heatsink for dust bunnies.
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Message 164464 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 0:07:13 UTC

I have an Athlon XP 2200+ in a laptop that can get so hot that my benchmarks are cut in half. Watch and compare you benchmarks.
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Message 164589 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 9:55:55 UTC - in response to Message 164411.  



OK, installed speedfan and it seems my CPU temperature becomes 81,5 degrees when running BOINC. It's a Athlon XP 2100+ running at 1733MHz. I don't know if it is near any CPU Overheat Protection (COP) treshold.


if thats 81.5C that sounds very high and I'm suprised that your computer works at that temp. many temperture moniters read wrong, esp AMD ,and you need to make an adjustment, most moniters include a list of MBs and you need to select your MB inorder to get a correct reading. Many manufactures have a utility to moniter temp but you need to visit their site and download it,if you dont have it on disk all ready.


Actually when I close the cover of my computer, the temperature of the CPU rises to 88C and the temperature of my graphic card (ATI 9800SE All-in-wonder) rises from an average 52C to 80C as well.

I will probably do a test where I let the temperatur rise (by closing the cover) until the computer freezes. Then at least I know for sure that this is the cause of the freezes.

Need to do something about that heat anyway. If 60C is normal for my CPU I need to do something...
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Message 164590 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 9:57:15 UTC - in response to Message 164412.  



OK, installed speedfan and it seems my CPU temperature becomes 81,5 degrees when running BOINC. It's a Athlon XP 2100+ running at 1733MHz. I don't know if it is near any CPU Overheat Protection (COP) treshold.


That seems pretty high, My 2100 runs at 60C at 100%. May want to check your heatsink for dust bunnies.


I will probably need to use the vacuum cleaner...
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Message 164597 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 11:59:05 UTC - in response to Message 161591.  

Since yesterday my computer freezes up completely. No mouse movement, no keyboard and after a reboot it took only a few minutes to completely freeze again.

After some digging around I found out that it was BOINC and to be more precise, as soon as the Setiathome_4.18_windows_intelx86.exe file was started a freeze was the result.

As I suspected a bad file and as I did not have problems before, I deleted the file. BOINC just downloaded a new one and the freezes came back just the same.

Any of you know what can be the problem?


Please join this BOINC project for computer problems! http://winerror.cs.berkeley.edu/crashcollection/
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Message 164678 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 17:08:42 UTC
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The fact that both your CPU and GPU report such extreme high temperature, I assume it is in Celsius, is indeed strange.
If the reading is right it might be a problem whit a bad motherboard or PSU (powersuply unit). Can you see what voltage your CPU is running on?

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Message 164684 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 17:21:26 UTC - in response to Message 161857.  

I had the same problem with a laptop running Windows 98. I hardly use it and just let it run seti. However if I run another application, say Word, then it was freezing just as you describe. I suspect that the machine is near its processing and memory capacity just running seti. I hardly touch it now and I have not had a repeat of the problem for some weeks. I know that isn't going to be a very useful option for you but it may help in some way. :)

p.s. I also reduced to an absolute minimum other stuff that was loading at startup.


Unfortunately this problem occurs with a 2100+ athlon XP with 1 gb memory :-(


Here the same on Windows 2003, Athlon 2800 XP, 512MB Ram

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Message 164690 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 17:53:39 UTC - in response to Message 164589.  

Actually when I close the cover of my computer, the temperature of the CPU rises to 88C and the temperature of my graphic card (ATI 9800SE All-in-wonder) rises from an average 52C to 80C as well.


That's getting dangerously close to releasing the "magic smoke" from your computer. Everyone is right when they say, check/clean the heatsink and make sure the fan is working properly. It might not be a bad time to pull the heatsink off, carefully clean the heatsink and chip with 99% isopropyl alcohol, dry, and re-seat using the right amount of a good thermal paste.

The fact that the GPU temperature jumps when the case is closed means you may have a problem with your power supply or really poor ventilation inside the case. Both of these things are bad.

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Message 164711 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 19:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 164678.  

The fact that both your CPU and GPU report such extreme high temperature, I assume it is in Celsius, is indeed strange.
If the reading is right it might be a problem whit a bad motherboard or PSU (powersuply unit). Can you see what voltage your CPU is running on?


The temperatures are indeed in Celsius and these values are reported by Speedfan

VCOREA:1,79V
VINR0:1,78V
+3.3V: 3,34V
+5V: 4,95V
+12V: 12,46V
-12V: -11,17V
-5V: -4,94V
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Message 164712 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 19:21:52 UTC - in response to Message 164690.  

Actually when I close the cover of my computer, the temperature of the CPU rises to 88C and the temperature of my graphic card (ATI 9800SE All-in-wonder) rises from an average 52C to 80C as well.


That's getting dangerously close to releasing the "magic smoke" from your computer. Everyone is right when they say, check/clean the heatsink and make sure the fan is working properly. It might not be a bad time to pull the heatsink off, carefully clean the heatsink and chip with 99% isopropyl alcohol, dry, and re-seat using the right amount of a good thermal paste.

The fact that the GPU temperature jumps when the case is closed means you may have a problem with your power supply or really poor ventilation inside the case. Both of these things are bad.


Dusting is surely one thing I will do. I have an extra fan in my Chassis, however I could use a better airflow I suppose.
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Message 164713 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 19:23:07 UTC

You are in the danger zone with those temps! Doubble check that all your fans are operational, power supply fan, heatsink fan and any other case fans are all spinning. It sounds like something isn't being actively cooled and is letting heat build up in your system (especially when the case is closed).

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Message 164741 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 20:42:01 UTC

The readings on Vcore looks ok. so I think you should try what ampoliros suggested, good luck.
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Message 165041 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 11:03:23 UTC - in response to Message 164712.  
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I have an extra fan in my Chassis, however I could use a better airflow I suppose.


Just another thought: I have a "server" case which has three fans to move air through it (one in above my CPU and two out the back). BUT ... after a while I found that the outward bound fans worked TOO GOOD, and were "starving" my PSU of its air flow, causing it to get too hot and unstable. Solution? I now have three inward bound fans to partially pressurize my case, and added another booster fan on the outside of my PSU to help exhaust the heat. Problem solved.

Oh, and in my room where my computer is, the temperature often reaches around 40C in the afternoon.
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Message 165047 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 11:18:16 UTC - in response to Message 165041.  


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I have an extra fan in my Chassis, however I could use a better airflow I suppose.


Just another thought: I have a "server" case which has three fans to move air through it (one in above my CPU and two out the back). BUT ... after a while I found that the outward bound fans worked TOO GOOD, and were "starving" my PSU of its air flow, causing it to get too hot and unstable. Solution? I now have three inward bound fans to partially pressurize my case, and added another booster fan on the outside of my PSU to help exhaust the heat. Problem solved.

Oh, and in my room where my computer is, the temperature often reaches around 40C in the afternoon.



I have a DELL Inspiron 2200 and i have noticed that it will shut down sometime without warning of any kind. I think it may be from heat but not sure. Only other programs running are the virus/spyware program and Dell's programs that it starts at powerup. Not sure where to look for to find the CPU temp.

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Message 165062 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 12:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 161591.  
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Since yesterday my computer freezes up completely. No mouse movement, no keyboard and after a reboot it took only a few minutes to completely freeze again.




Asus has a utility called Asus Probe. Latest ver. is 2.24.10 and is available on the web site.

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Message 165083 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 13:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 165047.  

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I have an extra fan in my Chassis, however I could use a better airflow I suppose.


Just another thought: I have a "server" case which has three fans to move air through it (one in above my CPU and two out the back). BUT ... after a while I found that the outward bound fans worked TOO GOOD, and were "starving" my PSU of its air flow, causing it to get too hot and unstable. Solution? I now have three inward bound fans to partially pressurize my case, and added another booster fan on the outside of my PSU to help exhaust the heat. Problem solved.

Oh, and in my room where my computer is, the temperature often reaches around 40C in the afternoon.



I have a DELL Inspiron 2200 and i have noticed that it will shut down sometime without warning of any kind. I think it may be from heat but not sure. Only other programs running are the virus/spyware program and Dell's programs that it starts at powerup. Not sure where to look for to find the CPU temp.[/quote

if dell doesnt have its own then you can try this http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ should be free and you might have to configure it for your motherboard.
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Message 166662 - Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 6:49:08 UTC - in response to Message 164741.  

The readings on Vcore looks ok. so I think you should try what ampoliros suggested, good luck.



Well dusted the heatsink, it was really clogged with dust. Helped to shave about 10 degrees of my CPU temp, furthermore the outside temperature is down from 27 to 17, which helpes as well.

My CPU operating temperature according to Speedfan is now 56 degrees, with my CPU running at 100%. It is still not possible to close my computer case, as the temperature of both the CPU and the GPU rise about 10-15 degrees. Seems that the computer freezes have been solved though.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!
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Message 166664 - Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 6:53:01 UTC - in response to Message 164411.  


No. In your case you should take a look at your cpu temp first. If everything looks normal you could then try to raise the Vcore, that might stabilize your computer.


OK, installed speedfan and it seems my CPU temperature becomes 81,5 degrees when running BOINC. It's a Athlon XP 2100+ running at 1733MHz. I don't know if it is near any CPU Overheat Protection (COP) treshold.


if thats 81.5C that sounds very high and I'm suprised that your computer works at that temp. many temperture moniters read wrong, esp AMD ,and you need to make an adjustment, most moniters include a list of MBs and you need to select your MB inorder to get a correct reading. Many manufactures have a utility to moniter temp but you need to visit their site and download it,if you dont have it on disk all ready.


Actually you were right. It seems that Speedfan reported a temperature about 7 degrees higher than the ASUS Probe utility. Anyway the temperature is now back to a normal 56 Celsius on Speedfan (Which comes down to 48 Celsius in ASUS Probe).
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Message 166726 - Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 12:05:44 UTC - in response to Message 166662.  

It is still not possible to close my computer case, as the temperature of both the CPU and the GPU rise about 10-15 degrees. Seems that the computer freezes have been solved though.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!


Good deal!! Next step would be to find a source of compressed air to blow out all the dust in the power supply. The fan in the power supply is the only means of exhausting the heat from the case. Also a filter placed in front of the front case fan can cut down on the cleaning intervals.
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