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Oliver (since 12-may-1999) Send message Joined: 12 May 99 Posts: 33 Credit: 11,639,771 RAC: 13 |
Hi, this just in: Sign the Seti Boinc high availability (24x7) Petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/seti24x7/petition.html Please, no flames in the petition. Its a petition from a user point of view. Read the petition and comment please. Thanks Oliver http://tinymailto.com/oliver <- my email after a captcha |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
Hi, Go to Flames thread.... |
Oliver (since 12-may-1999) Send message Joined: 12 May 99 Posts: 33 Credit: 11,639,771 RAC: 13 |
Go to Flames thread.... Why? Its not flame. Its a petition. http://tinymailto.com/oliver <- my email after a captcha |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Since the Seti Boinc project has launched, many service downtime has been experienced. This problem never happend that often with the original SETI@Home (SetiClassic) project. Stealing a post by Paul D. Buck from here: * 1999 You may want to read through the logs. |
eberndl Send message Joined: 12 Oct 01 Posts: 539 Credit: 619,111 RAC: 3 |
Hi, Hi Oliver, Well.... where do I start? one of the purposes of BOINC is to be better able to withstand outages (which DID and DO happen in Classic) by allowing you to work on multiple different projects. This means that a 100% uptime is not required of this, or any other BOINC project. I agree that at this moment, there are many projects that are down and/or out of work, and that this is very stressful for many of us crunchers. However, since you have been crunching since basically the very beginning, you must remember that there were regular outages in the first year or so of Classic as well. In fact, the major reason that add-ons such as SETI-Driver and SETI-Spy were developed was to help the users weather the outages without letting their computers cool off. Now, not only is this capability part of the "vanilla install", the multiple projects acts as an additional buffer. Another reason that there have been outages and such is that because Classic is still up and running, the wonderful folks at Berkeley can't move all of their power over to BOINC, they have to support 2 databases of WUs, 2 sets of up/download systems, 2 sets of validators (yes, the Classic WUs get validated, currently ~50 MILLION units behind), the two SETIs also share the same bandwidth, causing more connections to be dropped. But they are working on it. And I also noticed that you didn't even bother signing your own petition... |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
Go to Flames thread.... Because I flamed you for your lame ass petition. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
The thing that really bites is that these noobs and "Classic" converts seem to think Berkeley "owes" us something. *** NEWS FLASH *** We're ALL volunteers there.... Attach to other BOINC projects and your computer[s] will blissfully crunch away throughout any projects' outage. How will a petition help the Berkeley devs work any faster to fix any problems? It won't! All it will do is create discontent, and way more negativity than there already is. So, just have patience.... CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
How will a petition help the Berkeley devs work any faster to fix any problems? It won't! Oh I don't know, he can sign up to the developer's email list and post it there for Dr. Anderson to laugh at. ;) |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
How will a petition help the Berkeley devs work any faster to fix any problems? It won't! Bah hahahahahahahahahaha cough, hack hahahahaha, hack, gag, hack hahaha.... >:-) (-:< CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Bah hahahahahahahahahaha cough, hack hahahahaha, hack, gag, hack hahaha.... Don't try this at home kids, to make your favorite Vulcan laugh and choke in it. Mr. Spock will haunt you for years to come. |
Winkle Send message Joined: 11 Jun 02 Posts: 43 Credit: 31,854 RAC: 0 |
If you look at the sponsors link on the Seti home page it states: "SETI@home is a nonprofit educational and research organization that relies heavily on donations to continue its work." Crunching numbers is voluntary and not a right. I see it even as a privelege to be able to do something which may make a huge difference in the future. Were they a profit organisation in which I had a vested interest, or a public utility, a petition might be warranted. I have said it before and I will say it here again... I take my hats off to the guys (and gals) at BOINC and SETI for their work. When you consider the amount of work which has already gone into the entire system, overall it can only be called a resounding success. You will get no signature from me. If you are running out of work in Seti you might like to try Einstein or one of the other projects. I have and am considering others also. |
Kajunfisher Send message Joined: 29 Mar 05 Posts: 1407 Credit: 126,476 RAC: 0 |
I'm suprised there wasn't another thread created in NC for this... And if you happen to find a project or a computer that's 24/7 please let me know. |
Daniel Michel Send message Joined: 2 Feb 04 Posts: 14925 Credit: 1,378,607 RAC: 6 |
if there's anything the people in charge of seti boinc want...it's for the program to work well...to have high availability (as you say)...to send them a petition at this point would be insulting...it's like saying that the recent problems with seti boinc are an evil plot...and you're standing up to tell them to cut it out and get with the program!...what you're doing seems reasonable...until you consider that the folks at SETI BOINC HQ are working their asses off trying to fix things...they don't need a petition to tell them to do that...they are more upset than we are about this...so please lighten up...and save the petition for a cause that really needs one. PROUD TO BE TFFE! |
Winkle Send message Joined: 11 Jun 02 Posts: 43 Credit: 31,854 RAC: 0 |
Someone signed his petition. here |
Kajunfisher Send message Joined: 29 Mar 05 Posts: 1407 Credit: 126,476 RAC: 0 |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
if there's anything the people in charge of seti boinc want...it's for the program to work well...to have high availability (as you say)...to send them a petition at this point would be insulting...it's like saying that the recent problems with seti boinc are an evil plot...and you're standing up to tell them to cut it out and get with the program!...what you're doing seems reasonable...until you consider that the folks at SETI BOINC HQ are working their asses off trying to fix things...they don't need a petition to tell them to do that...they are more upset than we are about this...so please lighten up...and save the petition for a cause that really needs one. Hey, Dan, go IM.... CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
I'm suprised there wasn't another thread created in NC for this... It's their revenge for all those flames they lost. me@rescam.org |
N/A Send message Joined: 18 May 01 Posts: 3718 Credit: 93,649 RAC: 0 |
[font='courier,courier new']Two questions: (1) How do expect to enforce the petition, (2) when you can't control the problem? Bad idea.[/font] |
David Stites Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 286 Credit: 10,113,361 RAC: 0 |
The thing that really bites is that these noobs and "Classic" converts seem to think Berkeley "owes" us something. *** NEWS FLASH *** We're ALL volunteers there.... Attach to other BOINC projects and your computer[s] will blissfully crunch away throughout any projects' outage. How will a petition help the Berkeley devs work any faster to fix any problems? It won't! All it will do is create discontent, and way more negativity than there already is. So, just have patience.... Except for the predjudicial comments about "noobs and Classic converts" I agree. All I was ever asked to do was donate some unused computer power. NOTHING ELSE. Nobody asked me to take over, or tell them what to do, or try to run things in any way. When they have work I will do it, when they don't.. Maybe I'll get a life. BTW, I had some outages of my own recently and will have some more in the future but nobody from SETI complained. Keep crunching(when you can), David Stites Pullman, WA USA |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
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