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Message 156108 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 3:06:25 UTC

The rash of troubles SETI seems to have with its servers indicates to me that the basic system design is flawed and in bad need of a complete rework. Either that or SETI is trying to squeeze money out of someone. Possibly students are doing work that should be undertaken only by the professors themselves.

I could understand a few minor problems but the ones SETI has are stalling its entire public system.

What do you think ?
[b]UNIVERSAL ENTROPY is little more than the seeking of equilibrium, If there is a grand unifier, it is Entropy. With A 3 Deg Universe - Why Not expansion Too since any temp == Pressure , Have a nice day.{/b]
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Message 156110 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 3:15:39 UTC - in response to Message 156108.  

What do you think ?


I think the same could be said of much software. Like Windows, for instance. I'd bet on SETI's problems being solved first, though.


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Message 156111 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 3:20:07 UTC
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Have you been to the Classic site since the 18th of August?
A Mr. Nick Cole seems to feel as you do.
He started a thread in the "number crunching" forum of this site. Many replies are there that might help you.

My thoughts are also there.

hope this helps

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Design Flaw this is a link to that thread.
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Message 156128 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 4:53:59 UTC - in response to Message 156108.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]
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Message 156164 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 6:49:36 UTC - in response to Message 156108.  

SETI is trying to squeeze money out of someone. What do you think?

So that's why I'm broke. It's SETI's fault.
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Message 156166 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 6:50:58 UTC - in response to Message 156128.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]

Who shall be Rebel Leader?!
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Message 156183 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 7:33:11 UTC - in response to Message 156166.  

[font='courier,courier new']Where the bloody Zarq did that come from?[/font]
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Message 156207 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 9:25:15 UTC - in response to Message 156166.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]

Who shall be Rebel Leader?!

Cool.
Terorists with a mouse and a modem:>
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Message 156211 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 9:48:45 UTC - in response to Message 156207.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]

Who shall be Rebel Leader?!

Cool.
Terorists with a mouse and a modem:>

Or through a time warp from the future; He was a mindless jerk who was the first against the wall when the revolution came.
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 156229 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 10:23:02 UTC - in response to Message 156211.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]

Who shall be Rebel Leader?!

Cool.
Terorists with a mouse and a modem:>

Or through a time warp from the future; He was a mindless jerk who was the first against the wall when the revolution came.

It is so nice to be among those who know what 42 is !
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Message 156232 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 10:28:35 UTC - in response to Message 156229.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]

Who shall be Rebel Leader?!

Cool.
Terorists with a mouse and a modem:>

Or through a time warp from the future; He was a mindless jerk who was the first against the wall when the revolution came.

It is so nice to be among those who know what 42 is !

W-H-A-T-D-O-Y-O-U-G-E-T-W-H-E-N-Y-O-U-M-U-L-T-I-P-L-Y-S-I-X-B-Y-N-I-N-E?
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 156236 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 10:35:40 UTC - in response to Message 156232.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]

Who shall be Rebel Leader?!

Cool.
Terorists with a mouse and a modem:>

Or through a time warp from the future; He was a mindless jerk who was the first against the wall when the revolution came.

It is so nice to be among those who know what 42 is !

W-H-A-T-D-O-Y-O-U-G-E-T-W-H-E-N-Y-O-U-M-U-L-T-I-P-L-Y-S-I-X-B-Y-N-I-N-E?

Something fundamentally wrong with the Universe.
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Message 156237 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 10:42:11 UTC

On a more serious side, when you think of the millions (and more) of work units, results, bandwidth traffic, scheduling, analysis, database manipulation etc etc which goes on in Seti and indeed BOINC overall.
It is a wonder not only that it doesn't crash every second day, but that it works at all as well as it does.
My hat comes off to the guys running it.
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Message 156307 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 14:35:26 UTC - in response to Message 156232.  

It is so nice to be among those who know what 42 is !

W-H-A-T-D-O-Y-O-U-G-E-T-W-H-E-N-Y-O-U-M-U-L-T-I-P-L-Y-S-I-X-B-Y-N-I-N-E?

One return trip to 4th grade elementary school. This time without the calculator to cheat the year through. :P

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Message 156327 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 15:27:10 UTC - in response to Message 156232.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]

Who shall be Rebel Leader?!

Cool.
Terorists with a mouse and a modem:>

Or through a time warp from the future; He was a mindless jerk who was the first against the wall when the revolution came.

It is so nice to be among those who know what 42 is !

W-H-A-T-D-O-Y-O-U-G-E-T-W-H-E-N-Y-O-U-M-U-L-T-I-P-L-Y-S-I-X-B-Y-N-I-N-E?


What do you get?
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Message 156334 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 15:45:53 UTC - in response to Message 156327.  

[font='courier,courier new']I think you're a mindless jerk who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.[/font]

Who shall be Rebel Leader?!

Cool.
Terorists with a mouse and a modem:>

Or through a time warp from the future; He was a mindless jerk who was the first against the wall when the revolution came.

It is so nice to be among those who know what 42 is !

W-H-A-T-D-O-Y-O-U-G-E-T-W-H-E-N-Y-O-U-M-U-L-T-I-P-L-Y-S-I-X-B-Y-N-I-N-E?


What do you get?

42, thats why the universe is so messed up.
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 156360 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 16:56:12 UTC

You do not seem to understand the basic nature of the answer.
42...54....as you answer the question the answer keeps getting bigger. It is just entropy doing its nasty work. It is what will get us all in the end.
If there is a grand unification, entropy shall have to be part of the equation.
I understand energy and matter is just different states of the very same stuff
that means from hydrogen to lead even though their behaviors are different it is still the very same stuff.
Everything we know is just different states of the very same stuff thanks to entropy.
Deep thought could only count the number of letters involved it lacked the artistic sense to call it all entropy.


[b]UNIVERSAL ENTROPY is little more than the seeking of equilibrium, If there is a grand unifier, it is Entropy. With A 3 Deg Universe - Why Not expansion Too since any temp == Pressure , Have a nice day.{/b]
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Message 156361 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 16:56:29 UTC

You do not seem to understand the basic nature of the answer.
42...54....as you answer the question the answer keeps getting bigger. It is just entropy doing its nasty work. It is what will get us all in the end.
If there is a grand unification, entropy shall have to be part of the equation.
I understand energy and matter is just different states of the very same stuff
that means from hydrogen to lead even though their behaviors are different it is still the very same stuff.
Everything we know is just different states of the very same stuff thanks to entropy.
Deep thought could only count the number of letters involved it lacked the artistic sense to call it all entropy.


[b]UNIVERSAL ENTROPY is little more than the seeking of equilibrium, If there is a grand unifier, it is Entropy. With A 3 Deg Universe - Why Not expansion Too since any temp == Pressure , Have a nice day.{/b]
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Message 156362 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 16:56:42 UTC

You do not seem to understand the basic nature of the answer.
42...54....as you answer the question the answer keeps getting bigger. It is just entropy doing its nasty work. It is what will get us all in the end.
If there is a grand unification, entropy shall have to be part of the equation.
I understand energy and matter is just different states of the very same stuff
that means from hydrogen to lead even though their behaviors are different it is still the very same stuff.
Everything we know is just different states of the very same stuff thanks to entropy.
Deep thought could only count the number of letters involved it lacked the artistic sense to call it all entropy.


[b]UNIVERSAL ENTROPY is little more than the seeking of equilibrium, If there is a grand unifier, it is Entropy. With A 3 Deg Universe - Why Not expansion Too since any temp == Pressure , Have a nice day.{/b]
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Message 156367 - Posted: 24 Aug 2005, 17:00:44 UTC - in response to Message 156362.  

You do not seem to understand the basic nature of the answer.
42...54....as you answer the question the answer keeps getting bigger. It is just entropy doing its nasty work. It is what will get us all in the end.
If there is a grand unification, entropy shall have to be part of the equation.
I understand energy and matter is just different states of the very same stuff
that means from hydrogen to lead even though their behaviors are different it is still the very same stuff.
Everything we know is just different states of the very same stuff thanks to entropy.
Deep thought could only count the number of letters involved it lacked the artistic sense to call it all entropy.


Word of advice, don't hit the button more than once, there are people waiting to mercilessly flame users who post the same message more than once, i can testify to this.
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