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Message 107850 - Posted: 5 May 2005, 18:00:59 UTC

I'm looking to see if there are any optimized crunchers for windows that anyone would want to post a link to. Some would like to know what code optimizations can be made, so they can do it on their own. Others would like to know what compiled programs exist, that could be tried. (of course, at each person's own risk)
Or just general discussion on how people have optimized using BOINC Manager, or BOINC View, or... something else.
Mainly windows xp, but also interested in 98, or others.


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Message 108273 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 19:36:34 UTC

I find it hard to believe that NO ONE has optimized anything for Windows.

Or else they are just ignoring this thread.

I for one run on Windows, and would like to know some tips, or get some exe's on faster crunchin' for seti and others if possible.

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Message 108280 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 19:46:00 UTC
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I think you'll find that BOINC is the Open Source program that you can tweak to your heart's desire. But the actual crunchers aren't. BOINC doesn't crunch, you know? It's just the shell program that keeps communications going and queues your work units. Okay, it does a little more than that, but that's it in a nutshell, really.

Since the crunchers are being downloaded through BOINC, while the units you crunch are coded to which cruncher to use, it'll be darn difficult to do what you want to do. You could run into the problem that as soon as you use your optimized cruncher, that it'll be overwritten (or plainly ignored) by the correct cruncher as soon as you contact home-base.

Lastly, you may find that the latest BOINC versions are already optimized for Windows.
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Message 108283 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 19:50:42 UTC - in response to Message 108273.  

<blockquote>I find it hard to believe that NO ONE has optimized anything for Windows.

Or else they are just ignoring this thread.

I for one run on Windows, and would like to know some tips, or get some exe's on faster crunchin' for seti and others if possible.
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This is being discussed on another thread. Basically, there are tweaks to make Windows crunch faster, but the compiler used (from Intel) is licensed, not free like gcc, and not widely available, like VC7.

So, before faster crunchers can be distributed for Windows, someone has to buy the compiler.
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Message 108284 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 19:52:15 UTC - in response to Message 108280.  

<blockquote>I think you'll find that BOINC is the Open Source program that you can tweak to your heart's desire. But the actual crunchers aren't. BOINC doesn't crunch, you know? It's just the shell program that keeps communications going and queues your work units. Okay, it does a little more than that, but that's it in a nutshell, really.

Since the crunchers are being downloaded through BOINC, while the units you crunch are coded to which cruncher to use, it'll be darn difficult to do what you want to do. You could run into the problem that as soon as you use your optimized cruncher, that it'll be overwritten (or plainly ignored) by the correct cruncher as soon as you contact home-base.

Lastly, you may find that the latest BOINC versions are already optimized for Windows. </blockquote>

No, you can use the anonymous platform feature of BOINC. This is what people are doing with their optimized Linux apps. After compiling, you need to edit the .xml's to call your self-compiled science app instead of the default app BOINC wants to use.
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Message 108285 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 19:53:08 UTC

i would be interested in compiling for windows but do not have MSVC++7 or better.
i have tried numerous of the free VC++ programs but none recognize the builds.

so as these are a bit cost-prohibitive to me, i will gladly test optimized versions for those that do have access to said programs.

There is another thread that discusses this, but he cannot share due to the terms of the eval license of the intel compilier he is using.

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Message 108305 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 21:16:48 UTC - in response to Message 108283.  

<blockquote><blockquote>I find it hard to believe that NO ONE has optimized anything for Windows.

Or else they are just ignoring this thread.

I for one run on Windows, and would like to know some tips, or get some exe's on faster crunchin' for seti and others if possible.
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This is being discussed on another thread. Basically, there are tweaks to make Windows crunch faster, but the compiler used (from Intel) is licensed, not free like gcc, and not widely available, like VC7.

So, before faster crunchers can be distributed for Windows, someone has to buy the compiler.</blockquote>



Ned, exactly which compiler is needed? I think I can get Intel C++compiler for Windows V8.1 fairly inexpensive.
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Message 108314 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 22:05:19 UTC - in response to Message 108305.  

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I find it hard to believe that NO ONE has optimized anything for Windows.

Or else they are just ignoring this thread.

I for one run on Windows, and would like to know some tips, or get some exe's on faster crunchin' for seti and others if possible.
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This is being discussed on another thread. Basically, there are tweaks to make Windows crunch faster, but the compiler used (from Intel) is licensed, not free like gcc, and not widely available, like VC7.

So, before faster crunchers can be distributed for Windows, someone has to buy the compiler.</blockquote>



Ned, exactly which compiler is needed? I think I can get Intel C++compiler for Windows V8.1 fairly inexpensive. </blockquote>

The thread is over here. They are using the Intel compiler, which retails for $399. If the right people asked, there might be academic pricing, and they might even be able to get a donation.
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Message 108334 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 23:07:54 UTC
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Ok I will have a copy of Intel C++ compiler for windows V 8.1 next week. Now I just need someone to volunteer to use it to compile us a super cruncher for windows....

I know I can not us this program so if one person who is heavy into doing SETI@H and the like, send me and email with his/her address and I will give you the program. US only sorry


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