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Message 104825 - Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 11:44:10 UTC
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yesterday 27/04/05 at 17:00 UTC i returned 5 results. According to BOINC they transmitted OK.

but 4 of the 5 are still showing 'outcome unknown'.

they are

<a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284368[/url]

<a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284352[/url]

<a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284340[/url]

<a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284377[/url]

Does anyone know why this might be?

My pc is 655788.



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Message 104829 - Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 11:54:06 UTC - in response to Message 104825.  

> yesterday 27/04/05 at 17:00 UTC i returned 5 results. According to BOINC they
> transmitted OK.
>
> but 4 of the 5 are still showing 'outcome unknown'.
>
> they are
>
> <a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284368[/url]
>
> <a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284352[/url]
>
> <a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284340[/url]
>
> <a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284377[/url]
>
> Does anyone know why this might be?
>
> My pc is 655788.
>
But does it still say 100% in the work tab next to the completed unit? If so you have only completed the first part of the process. The first part is telling one computer you have sucessfully completed the unit and don't send it back out again. The second part is telling a second computer what the results of your crunching are, that happens automatically everytime your computer gets new units, it returns the completed ones and gets new units to crunch.

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Message 104854 - Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 13:21:13 UTC - in response to Message 104825.  
Last modified: 28 Apr 2005, 13:21:29 UTC

> yesterday 27/04/05 at 17:00 UTC i returned 5 results. According to BOINC they
> transmitted OK.
>
> but 4 of the 5 are still showing 'outcome unknown'.
>
> they are
>
> <a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284368[/url]
>
> <a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284352[/url]
>
> <a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284340[/url]
>
> <a>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=13284377[/url]
>
> Does anyone know why this might be?
>
> My pc is 655788.
>

They certainly don't have a received date/time against them. Have you run an 'Update Project' recently?

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Message 104896 - Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 16:22:09 UTC
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They now all show as recieved, with an upload date/time of 28/04/05 16:09 UTC.

That is 24 hours after they were uploaded.

Strange that one should gain credit immidiatly, and the remaining 4 not show as submitted for 24 hours.

I just sent in another 7 results on 28-4-5 @ 17:10 (14:10 UTC), and have gained credit for them.

I get credit for 4 result a day late, and credit for todays 7 as soon as they were sent in.

I assume that the relevent servers failed to process my yesterdays results untill 'prodded' back into action by the arrival of todays results.

At least I have had the credit. I am not worried it is late. I was mostly worried that it was not going to arrive at all.


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Message 104907 - Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 16:37:10 UTC
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What time zone are you in? 1410UTC was about two hours ago.

(added) There are two steps to the upload process.

Step one is to upload the results.

Step two is to "report" the upload. Until the result is reported the system does not know that the result has been uploaded.

The uploaded result is reported as uploaded the next time your computer requests more workunits or you do a manual update.
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Message 104923 - Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 17:04:05 UTC - in response to Message 104907.  

> (added) There are two steps to the upload process.
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> Step one is to upload the results.
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> Step two is to "report" the upload. Until the result is reported the system
> does not know that the result has been uploaded.

1) Upload the Result Data File(s)
2) Report the Result

Just to nit-pick ... :)

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Message 104925 - Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 17:04:58 UTC - in response to Message 104907.  

> What time zone are you in? 1410UTC was about two hours ago.


Acording to the time on this fourum you posted at 16:37:10 UTC & modified at 16:49:06 UTC...

I am in england. It's according to my clock 18:04 and I bet this shows as posted at 17:04 UTC...

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Message 104927 - Posted: 28 Apr 2005, 17:08:10 UTC - in response to Message 104923.  

> 1) Upload the Result Data File(s)
> 2) Report the Result

Perhaps that is where I went wrong then, but I was not aware of having done anything differnt yesterday to what I do normally, or to what I did today.

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Message 106236 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 21:21:45 UTC

having a similar problem.
sent 4 WUs back on to base yesterday, still not even registered that they have been sent! they were all at 100%, have 'updated project' and still nothing.
not in this for the credit (as you can see from my stats!) but it seems pointless doing the work if it is then going to disappear into thin air...

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Message 106238 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 21:26:17 UTC - in response to Message 106236.  

> having a similar problem.
> sent 4 WUs back on to base yesterday, still not even registered that they have
> been sent! they were all at 100%, have 'updated project' and still nothing.
> not in this for the credit (as you can see from my stats!) but it seems
> pointless doing the work if it is then going to disappear into thin air...

The (very good) manual for Boinc is the BOINC Powered Projects Documentation by Paul D. Buck and the FAQ therein.

For information regarding Credits look here!

The process of getting it all to Berkeley is a two step operation.
Look here and here @Pauls ;)

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Message 106242 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 21:38:55 UTC

GET CREDIT, WHEN CREDIT IS DUE
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Message 106268 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 23:17:22 UTC - in response to Message 106242.  

> GET CREDIT, WHEN CREDIT IS DUE
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They show up in the list at the URL below

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=655788&offset=60
<img src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats.php?userID=898">
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Message 106272 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 23:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 106268.  

> > GET CREDIT, WHEN CREDIT IS DUE
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> They show up in the list at the URL below
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> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=655788&offset=60
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I just wanted to sound smart :)
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Message 106284 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 23:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 104927.  
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> > 1) Upload the Result Data File(s)
> > 2) Report the Result
>
> Perhaps that is where I went wrong then, but I was not aware of having done
> anything different yesterday to what I do normally, or to what I did today.

Well, for some reason, BOINC doesn't do both of those steps in one shot. It does one, and then a day later (or whatever your settings are) it does two.

I am guessing it's a bandwidth saving feature (not sure how it saves bandwidth though). It's not a big deal except when you want to take a certain machine offline permanently. I have to wait an extra day or two AFTER all the results have been uploaded to make sure step 2 got completed. I've tried manual updates, and sometimes (alot of times), BOINC refuses to manual update until the aloted time has actually really passed.


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Message 106362 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 4:47:11 UTC - in response to Message 106284.  

> > > 1) Upload the Result Data File(s)
> > > 2) Report the Result
[snip]
> Well, for some reason, BOINC doesn't do both of those steps in one shot. It
> does one, and then a day later (or whatever your settings are) it does two.
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> I am guessing it's a bandwidth saving feature (not sure how it saves bandwidth
> though).[snip]
> Jimmy
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More of a load saving device than bandwith. Each RPC causes the server to do some DB queries. Some of these can be combined into one.
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Message 106373 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 6:21:01 UTC

I have three that are not showing up.

57148947 13906630 27 Apr 2005 1:42:17 UTC 30 Apr 2005 13:10:02 UTC Over Success Done 11,867.00 26.83 pending
56774937 13816982 25 Apr 2005 22:08:41 UTC 29 Apr 2005 23:05:44 UTC Over Success Done 12,239.94 27.67 pending
56507832 13752538 25 Apr 2005 3:35:06 UTC 29 Apr 2005 16:28:57 UTC Over Success Done 11,914.39 26.94 pending

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Message 106439 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 12:59:34 UTC

at least they are showing as 'done'. if you look here http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/results.php?userid=8079081
you will see that there are 4 results that have apparently not been returned, even though i have done some after them. They WERE processed by my computer, they WERE returned by my computer but they seem to have disappeared into cyber space...
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Message 106455 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 14:01:08 UTC

1) Upload the Result Data File(s)
2) Report the Result = claim credit
3) validate the result = comparing to at least 2 other results, which means 2 other hosts have also to report their result. Therefore this can take some 10 days.
4) if validated, get credit.

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Message 106471 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 15:49:25 UTC

but i'm not waiting for results to be validated, i'm waiting for SETI to acknowledge i've even returned them!!
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