ARP: Coltushie, Alaska. Just hours after the Dow Jones closed more than 50 points higher today, noted economist Paul Zipferbrains said, in an exclusive interview, that our president, George Bush was responsible for saving the American economy. "I held off on my assessment after yesterday's NASDAQ jump," said Zipferbrains, "but today's numbers simply clinch it. The economy is back, as anyone can see from this two day trend."

Zipferbrains, who has been known to lay all of the country's troubles at the White House doors, went on to say that now there is some good news, and to be consistent, all credit should go to the president. "In fact," says the noted intellectual and economist, "I now see that the reason there have been no terrorist attacks on US soil in the last few years must also be credited to the president and the Republican party. What a fool I've been for ever thinking otherwise."

With that, Mr. Z indicated that he now has great faith in the Bush Social Security reform, since today's economic miracle shows the great wisdom of the Bush administration's policies. "However, if tomorrow's markets lose even one point, all bets are off!"

Three consecutive triple-digit losses in the last five trading days with only two two-digit gains in the NASDAQ and DJIA means I've got one digit raised...

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@na, ......I know which digit.....

Here tom, ....here's your 'rally'....




Ha ha ha.... (what an ass)

it's notable here, tom, that you evaded answering any of the questions put to you in the last thread. http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=13850

Specifically in post 99483 (and your evasion is compounded by your inability)

Your bullshit is exposed only for what it is...... mere tom-fool-ery....



(better pay attention, lest your thumb slip off your 'scale' of justice.... )

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So, put up a graph from late October to today to show the trend. If you can select whatever time period you want, then you can make the numbers show whatever you want. Your earlier claim was that the recent downturn flies in the face of Bush's economic/political policies, so by your logic, the two day turnaround should be credited to him.

At any rate, Paul, you apparently don't agree with your fellow Alaskan of the same initials. At least he is consistent and not an unbalanced ideologue like you. It is not I who have my thumb on the scales . . .

P.S. @NA, was there some emoticon I should have used to denote sarcasm?

was there some emoticon I should have used to denote sarcasm?
Not that I'm aware of.

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> It is not I who have my thumb on the scales . . .

Then it's firmly back up your ass, eh....

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> > It is not I who have my thumb on the scales . . .
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> Then it's firmly back up your ass, eh....

Once again, you resort to crude insults. And if I respond in kind, you accuse me of being impolite. I know it's hard to be shown to be a fool, but you bring it upon yourself. So, where's your brilliant philosopher friend Carl Cuseo to jump to your aid with some pithy (if not moronic) platitude?

I await your next unsupportable opinion, and the sure-to-follow obscenities.

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> I await your next unsupportable opinion, and the sure-to-follow obscenities.
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Give 'im hell, Tom! >;-)

L8R....

T'Khasi Time: Tuesday, 19 April 2005 - 09:26 PM --700 (Pacific Standard Time)

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Here tom,

Show us you're not anything more than a pompous boor.... and a disgruntled apologist for your 'hero' GW....

Here's what you evaded on the last post..... perhaps you'll show us all how you're not just full of hot air...
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You make quite a few assertions about how good the economy is doing....

You also cast aspersions on me once again by saying I posted an 'uninformed' diatribe.... you were careful not to actually provide any counterpoint of your own, nothing at all to affirm your dismissal of what I posted.

It's notable you avoided answering if there was even one Bush policy issue which has proven to be any where near as promised. Instead you attempt to portray my questions as 'biased'..... do you mean there is no merit or veracity to what I said?

Maybe you can fix that in your next post.......

And perhaps you can expand on how swimmingly the economy is doing...... (and no, tom, you know as well as I, that I have been talking about this all along.... nothing 'new' on my part.... despite your weak attempt to discredit my post along those lines, that tactic can only be described as more of your inchoate bullshit.)

Perhaps instead you cite some examples to show how well we are doing? Show us how this new productivity has not resulted in any measureable new business investment and how that's actually good for the economy. Explain how this 'new' productivity has not created the jobs that were promised and how that's such a good thing for the economy. Maybe show us what demographic is benefitting from this great economy you claim.


Maybe you could 'inform' us, tom..... Give us some of your 'sage' perspective here. Maybe show that what I posted really is how you would care to portray it. You should be able to do that, right?

Can you address wages, and maybe explain why they are losing ground for the first time in a long time? Just touch on where we are, and maybe show that the projections for continued stagnation are wrong. What indicators do you know of that show wage growth is expected to recover and return to historical rates of increase?

Can you address long term bond investments for us? Maybe tell us why the indicators don't point to this great economy you claim? Show how the deficit and trade imbalance are expected to affect T-bill performance. Tell us what being long in the bond market is expected to do for us when we run 37 trillion some odd dollars in unfunded current accounts.

Maybe you could address the rising interest rates and what that will mean to all the folks with adjustable rate mortgages? Just touch on the big picture and explain why real estate investments are starting to slide and what rising interest rates will do to asset flow in that segment of the market. See if you can find us a reference that doesn't refer to the 'housing market bubble'.

Maybe you could talk about how eliminating the estate tax is expected to remove 7 trillion dollars in revenue in the next ten years, and show us how that's going to affect current accounts. You know, you can explain how revenue sharing will be reduced and how that's so good for all the state and local governments. Maybe touch on how everyone's state and local taxes will rise to meet those federal shortfalls, and how that's going to stimulate all the growth in the local economies.

Maybe you could explain for us why there are so many unfilled posts in the Treasury Dept. ? Surely someone so astute as yourself has a perfectly clear explanation of what John Snow is doing for us ...... besides giving pep rallies in high school gymnasiums, and whipping up the believers in the 60 days- 60 cities Social Security tour. Maybe explain where Bush gets his economic advisement these days, since it's not coming from the Treasury Dept. You're up on all that, right tom?


Maybe explain what the Bush administration is doing to reduce the deficit as they keep 'promising'. Just touch on the high points of that policy, eh? Show us what steps can be taken and what those steps will mean in terms of future growth.

This ought to be easy for you, tom.... since you know so much that I don't, eh?

I have faith you can do what no other economist seems to be able to do, you must have some inside info that just isn't being printed anywhere else..... you will cite your sources, won't you, tom? .....I'm sure you're not concerned with any of your information standing up to any scrutiny.

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You call me a pompous boor after saying my thumb is "up my ass"? That's rather boorish of you.

Then you go on . . . and on . . . and on about things you clearly know little about, and try to have me give you an example the many things this administration has done well, only no matter what I may say, you would simply blather on about how I'm wrong, and a Republican, and you have all the right answers; so what's the point?

My reason for starting this thread was to point out your paranoid schizophrenic bias about the President (your President), and the United States' government. I've come to the conclusion that you will never wise up, but others (certainly not Carl) might see that not everthing you write (make that nothing you write) should be trusted. You can keep posting the product of your insane delusions (I fully support the First Amendment, which gives you that right), but I will keep calling a spade a spade when it comes to your unreasoned, ravings.

Now, if you keep to form, is where you loose some swearwords at me. That's fine, I can take it.

Egregiously boorish and still unable to address any economic reality.

Piss off, tom, you only started this thread because you're frustrated that your 'hero' is a failure on all counts....

Gee, Bush is now the most unpopular president ever recorded, having the worst approval ratings of any 2nd termer since WWII. Gallup, who in the past has always rated Bush above any other pollster, now shows Bush down badly, and only 38% of the country expressing satisfaction with the state of the country.

But according to you, it's just me.......

Gawd, what an ass you are. Evidently a blind apologizing ass who can't see out of your own bubble......

Sucks to be you, tom...... (oh, yeah, no content to go with your bullshit again... only excuses for the lack....)

Nighty night, have another drink..... you'll feel worse in the morning....

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Hey I just love this thread....lookin from the other side of the pond. Keep it guys i'm learning new insults each hour! I won't raise unfair trading and barriers btw.

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> I won't raise unfair trading and barriers btw.
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And don't forget not to mention Enron and Haliburton ;)

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LOL! True. Nor oil and a purposely weak dollar to get one over the rest of the world.

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ENRON the movie will debut soon.....

Sundance Film festival has a revue....

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Paul, Cool it!

I have started to respond to you several Times lately
and each time I stopped or erased the post thinking better of
it.

This post has turned into your personal pissing contest.

Paul you have no creditability.

Tom Has more Credibility and Integrity in his middle finger
Than you'll ever have.

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> This post has turned into your personal pissing contest.

Oh, well....

It's like this tim...

tom called me an asshole rather than address the content of my posts.

the same as he does now....

I've offered to let him answer his accusations but he evades .....

his purpose is to demean....

I'll worry about my own credibility.... reality bears out the info I offer....

You choose whoever you want to respect..... just as I choose who not to respect.

Those who show no respect, ....like tom, and then wheedle and moan because I won't give him any respect...... just show their own hypocrisy.

Make of it what you will tim, I'll keep offering facts and sources to back it up....

He can try to pass it off any way he can..... but he won't address the facts because they don't support his twaddle...

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OK, now where were we before being so rudely interrupted? Oh yes:

April 19, #101339: In a clearly fake story (fake, NA) some idiot in Alaska claimed that a two-day turnaround defined a trend in the stock market.

#101348: Paul Zimmerman, perhaps trying to defend his fellow Alaskan, makes the following incomprehensible statement, “Specifically in post 99483 (and your evasion is compounded by your inability)”, then proceeds to call my views “bullshit”.

April 20, #101496: I tell Paul Zimmerman that he is an “unbalanced ideologue”.

#101593: Zimmerman tells me that I have my thumb up my ass.

#101608: I call Zimmerman a fool and predict he will respond with more obscenities.

#101628: Zimmerman rants on, completely off topic for this thread, about things that he clearly does not understand; then he accuses me of posting “inchoate [sic] bullshit”.

#101659: I explain the reason for starting this thread (using a fake story that the stock market increase defined a trend), and predicted more swearing in response.

#101663: Zimmerman responds with a number of false claims about what I have said: 1) that I am unable to respond to him; 2) that I am frustrated about President Bush; 3) that I somehow said that it was only Zimmerman who disliked Bush; and 4) he assumes that I have been drinking. Throughout this he tells me to “piss off” and calls me an “ass”.

#101686: Captain Avatar suggests that Zimmerman cool off on his personal attacks.

#101690: Zimmerman claims that I called him an “asshole” (which I cannot find in this thread or the other Stock Market thread); he then says, “I've offered to let him answer his accusations but he evades .....”, (though I don’t know how or why I should answer my own accusations); he says that I [complain] because he doesn’t give me any respect, but I have never asked for his respect, just that he examine his biases, which has been my point all along in the reason for starting this thread.