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Message 95230 - Posted: 5 Apr 2005, 11:50:52 UTC

Had to post this, this is too funny.

4/4/05 10:33:18 PM||May run out of work in 10.00 days; requesting more
4/4/05 10:33:18 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 1.80 seconds of work
4/4/05 10:33:18 PM|SETI@home|Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
4/4/05 10:33:20 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded

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Message 95237 - Posted: 5 Apr 2005, 12:11:10 UTC

He he... At least you know you have 863998.2 seconds of work in you cache.
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Message 95238 - Posted: 5 Apr 2005, 12:11:40 UTC

Ok... I don't get it. That just means it will run out of work in 9.99 days so it topping off its buffer by requesting 1.8 seconds worth of work. It probably got one work unit which put it back over 10 days worth of work and made it happy.
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Message 95243 - Posted: 5 Apr 2005, 12:33:13 UTC - in response to Message 95238.  

> Ok... I don't get it. That just means it will run out of work in 9.99 days
> so it topping off its buffer by requesting 1.8 seconds worth of work. It
> probably got one work unit which put it back over 10 days worth of work and
> made it happy.
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Morning Toby,
yesterday John posted that he'd been "Download Limited" to 4 wu/day. I looked into his results. he's been a perfect cruncher from the beginning of the record until the end of March. He'd been asked to do a "Reset" by someone (supposedly with seti) this caused him to trash 14 WU. This trashing was causing him to get the "Download Limit" message.

What he's seeing as funny is that he's probably only got 1 to 5 WU downloaded. His ability to download is coming back, slowly, but coming back. I think he pushed his "Connect to" setting to 10 in an effort to get more than the 4 or 6/day limit. I'm not sure though.

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Message 95306 - Posted: 5 Apr 2005, 16:33:21 UTC - in response to Message 95238.  

> Ok... I don't get it. That just means it will run out of work in 9.99 days
> so it topping off its buffer by requesting 1.8 seconds worth of work. It
> probably got one work unit which put it back over 10 days worth of work and
> made it happy.

There is clearly some randomness to the requests, but one of the BOINC rules is that every request for work that is not subject to other limits will get one work unit.

So, this is effectively a request for one work unit.
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Message 95405 - Posted: 5 Apr 2005, 21:51:01 UTC

I can't help, just have to play one-up! Even though it isn't SETI@Home, it's the BOINC that does the request:

4/4/2005 6:09:24 AM||May run out of work in 1.00 days; requesting more
4/4/2005 6:09:24 AM|Einstein@Home|Requesting 0.05 seconds of work
4/4/2005 6:09:24 AM|Einstein@Home|Sending request to scheduler: http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi
4/4/2005 6:09:25 AM|Einstein@Home|Scheduler RPC to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi succeeded

(I've seen them from S@H also, but not since my last re-boot).

I do notice that when the request is one of these very small ones, the scheduler doesn't send a work unit. But my data isn't enough to tell what the threshhold is for sending that next unit.

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Message 96129 - Posted: 7 Apr 2005, 23:34:38 UTC

ive been getting stuff like this all day

2005-04-07 04:20:01 [---] May run out of work in 3.00 days; requesting more
2005-04-07 04:20:01 [SETI@home] Requesting 0.11 seconds of work
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Message 96133 - Posted: 7 Apr 2005, 23:44:42 UTC - in response to Message 96129.  

I usually get...
May run out of work in 0.00 days
Requesting 0.00 seconds of work
My setting is for 0.001. That way if my machine fails, I don't take any WUs with it.

Still, it's kinda funny to see the logs asking for no work... :-)
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Message 96199 - Posted: 8 Apr 2005, 3:40:35 UTC - in response to Message 96133.  

> I usually get...
May run out of work in 0.00 days
Requesting 0.00
> seconds of work
My setting is for 0.001. That way if my machine fails, I
> don't take any WUs with it.
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> Still, it's kinda funny to see the logs asking for no work... :-)

0.001 is probably smaller than you really want. I'm running 0.25 and I frequently have just one SETI (and just one Einstein).

Besides, even if you "take one with you" the other three will form a quorum.
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Message 96201 - Posted: 8 Apr 2005, 3:49:10 UTC

I have my settings at connect every 0.25 days, and I usually have 2 Predictor and 2 Seti units (1 running, 1 ready-to-go), but I still don't worry about taking a couple with me if I go down.

Now my other data, on the other hand.... isn't on this computer -- I don't keep anything of importance directly on my windows box.
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Message 96209 - Posted: 8 Apr 2005, 4:44:34 UTC - in response to Message 96199.  

...even if you "take one with you" the other three will form a quorum.
True. Hadn't thought of that.
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