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Message 6595 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 18:52:54 UTC

My machine takes about 3-1/2 hours to complete a work unit. I noticed that after the site came back up on Jul 9th that the client will only download one work unit at a time. The work unit now shows an estimated time till completion of 22-1/2 hours. As soon as it starts crunching it does get corrected. Any thoughts?
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Message 6604 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 19:03:17 UTC

Depending on who's story you care to believe, the Time To Complete for WUs has either accidentally or purposely been inflated. The end result either way is that the load on the distribution system has been relaxed so that most if not all people are getting some WUs, just not as many as they may have liked to. You will find that although the projected time is inflated, these WUs still actually crunch within the time span you were accustomed to seeing.

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Message 6606 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 19:06:11 UTC

Whatever provides those "pre-download estimates" is WAY off for the newer units. The values are ludicrous.
And it doesn't really get "corrected" when it starts crunching; the run-time estimator is (and has been since they went live), even worse than the pre-download estimator is now.
EVERY unit I get runs to over 50% in less than 10 minutes, but the estimated
time-to-completion keeps going UP. It's nowhere near accurate until it shows at least 85% complete. Units on this system take 7-8 hours; on my other one they take 3-4 hours. So saying 50% after 10 minutes is just silly.
They KNOW approximately how many FFTs a "normal" unit is going to have to run, and they have a benchmark of our system speed. That should provide a "reasonable" estimate right from the start of the unit, though it will likely need some adjustment as it goes along. Their "time-to-completion" code in the client is messed up badly, making that info totally worthless.
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Message 6677 - Posted: 11 Jul 2004, 22:16:21 UTC - in response to Message 6604.  

The problem this has caused as been the lack of downloads altogether. Because of testing on the BOINC Beta Test site, awhile back they recommended to us to reduce our cache limit to a very short time (0.1 - 0.5 days) so we could catch the software updates they were sending out. You probably remember that.

I just caught a glimpse of another answer that led me to believe that may be my problem in getting work units for SETI. I signed up a long time ago here and have NEVER received work units. I decided to up my cache to 0.1 - 1.0 days (just set it at 2 days today) and I'm finally getting work units!!! So, that 18+hr crunch time estimate has been preventing me from even getting work units at all.

I'm sure others have figured this out long ago (I'm kinda slow on the uptake because of my work schedule). It's just frustrating to not being able to participate in this endeavor for so long because of this little "glitch". Hope others who aren't getting WUs will see this and make the appropriate adjustments so they may start getting work.

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Message 6714 - Posted: 12 Jul 2004, 0:05:23 UTC - in response to Message 6677.  

> I just caught a glimpse of another answer that led me to believe that may be
> my problem in getting work units for SETI. I signed up a long time ago here
> and have NEVER received work units. I decided to up my cache to 0.1 - 1.0
> days (just set it at 2 days today) and I'm finally getting work units!!! So,
> that 18+hr crunch time estimate has been preventing me from even getting work
> units at all.

Hey Rich, the inflated time to completion has only been an issue for a couple days.

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Message 7126 - Posted: 12 Jul 2004, 19:56:15 UTC - in response to Message 6604.  

> Depending on who's story you care to believe, the Time To Complete for WUs has
> either accidentally or purposely been inflated. The end result either way is
> that the load on the distribution system has been relaxed so that most if not
> all people are getting some WUs, just not as many as they may have liked to.
>
> SkyHook
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I did suspect the Admin may have set the completion time intentionally to ease the load on the servers. I made that assumption when I noticed they always arrive with the exact same estimated time to completion of 22:30:25.

> You will find that although the projected time is inflated, these WUs still
> actually crunch within the time span you were accustomed to seeing.

No, it doesn't affect crunch time at all. Since I'm currently stuck with dial-up it means I have to do a lot of babysitting to keep the client busy.
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Message 7133 - Posted: 12 Jul 2004, 20:06:11 UTC
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I hope that this wasn't done on purpose... I can't get any Predictor@Home work because I have two SAH WU's sitting at the bottom that have an estimated completion time of 35 hours, which is 8-10 times longer than they take, so BOINC thinks I have enough WU's to last 3 days when it's more like 8 hours.

The SAH WU's that I had prior have estimated completion times of 5:52. Now they are up to 35:12 which is exactly 6 times as long (to the second.... no rounding at all.) The SAH project code did not change during this time. This is affecting two machines (one WinXP on BOINC 3.20 and one Win2K on BOINC 3.19) so it doesn't seem like a BOINC problem or a SAH project code problem.
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Message 7152 - Posted: 12 Jul 2004, 20:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 7133.  

> rounding at all.) The SAH project code did not change during this time. This
> is affecting two machines (one WinXP on BOINC 3.20 and one Win2K on BOINC
> 3.19) so it doesn't seem like a BOINC problem or a SAH project code problem.

When did "BOINC 3.20" come out?? After the 6/22 announcement that they had "gone live", I downloaded and it was only 3.19. They never announced a 3.20 version.
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Message 7155 - Posted: 12 Jul 2004, 20:41:54 UTC - in response to Message 7152.  
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> When did "BOINC 3.20" come out?? After the 6/22 announcement that they had
> "gone live", I downloaded and it was only 3.19. They never announced a 3.20
> version.

You will find the answer in this thread.

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Message 7158 - Posted: 12 Jul 2004, 20:43:34 UTC - in response to Message 7155.  

> > When did "BOINC 3.20" come out?? After the 6/22 announcement that they
> had
> > "gone live", I downloaded and it was only 3.19. They never announced a
> 3.20
> > version.
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> You will find the answer in <a> href="http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=1354">this
> thread[/url].

Great. Thanks! :)
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Message 8154 - Posted: 15 Jul 2004, 4:53:41 UTC
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I had the same problem before, but after a few WU's were finished the Time to Completion became correct.

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