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Message 78938 - Posted: 13 Feb 2005, 2:47:20 UTC

178.5 - Strongest Peak
11.62 - Best Triplet
1.19 - Best Pulse
GAUSSIAN score:0.52 power:4.14 fit:7.98

I'm new and wondered if these were normal results?

Email me at the_maverick@hotmail.co.uk - also can you explain what each means? Thankyou!
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Message 78944 - Posted: 13 Feb 2005, 3:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 78938.  

> 178.5 - Strongest Peak
> 11.62 - Best Triplet
> 1.19 - Best Pulse
> GAUSSIAN score:0.52 power:4.14 fit:7.98
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> I'm new and wondered if these were normal results?
>
> Email me at the_maverick@hotmail.co.uk - also can you explain what each means?
> Thankyou!
>

Click this link and click the links for each of the above for it's definition. You don't need to have answers here e-mailed to you. Just come back here and read them. That's the whole purpose of these message boards, it can be quicker than e-mail. Keep on crunchin'!

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Message 79399 - Posted: 14 Feb 2005, 17:58:19 UTC - in response to Message 78944.  

I am not just a random guy - I am Dr. in physics at Cambridge University I was merely asking if these results correlated with the average data results and what the 'peak' measuremet was based upon.

Any replies would be well recieved
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Message 79402 - Posted: 14 Feb 2005, 18:06:59 UTC

See the link in the above post...



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Message 79411 - Posted: 14 Feb 2005, 19:00:26 UTC - in response to Message 79399.  

> I am not just a random guy - I am Dr. in physics at Cambridge University I was
> merely asking if these results correlated with the average data results and
> what the 'peak' measuremet was based upon.
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> Any replies would be well recieved

You've received two responses.

Professor, if one of your students left a note taped on your door demanding that you call him at once, would you? I'll bet he'd have to come back during office hours or try and catch you on his own.

Same thing here.

There is a link that allows you to subscribe to the thread, then you'll be notified when answers are posted here, and those answers are available for everyone.
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Message 79420 - Posted: 14 Feb 2005, 19:54:17 UTC

@Ben Goodchild

I believe that you will have more luck with an answer beyond the basic definitions on the 'science' forum rather than here in the 'number crunching' area.

@Ned

Not sure why you found it necessary to reply with that bit of venom to Dr. Goodchild. It appears to me that his statement regarding being a physics professor was simply to clarify the level of answer which he was hoping to receive.

I would also point out that your analogy is flawed since the relationship bewteen a professor and student is not one between equals whereas the forum is an (relatively) egalitariam place.

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Message 79432 - Posted: 14 Feb 2005, 21:19:02 UTC
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I just have to worry about why a Dr. of Physics has problems with signal analysis, Gaussians, spikes, etc.

Oh, and you can look up some of the preliminary information on those terms on my site ...
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Message 79436 - Posted: 14 Feb 2005, 21:47:05 UTC

Do you know what you call the person who graduated LAST in his/her class at medical school?.............................................................



Doctor

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Message 79444 - Posted: 14 Feb 2005, 22:32:10 UTC - in response to Message 79420.  


> @Ned
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> Not sure why you found it necessary to reply with that bit of venom to Dr.
> Goodchild. It appears to me that his statement regarding being a physics
> professor was simply to clarify the level of answer which he was hoping to
> receive.

Venom might be a bit strong, but if you look at Dr. Goodchild's posts his first three are all virtually identical, and all request an answer by E-Mail.

When Siran referred him to the best information Siran was aware of, he replied that he wasn't just some random person, he was more qualified.

These forums aren't a university, that's true. It's a community, and part of the accepted etiquette is that questions will be answered where they can benefit the community.

You can review his posts here.


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Message 79468 - Posted: 15 Feb 2005, 0:37:54 UTC - in response to Message 79432.  

> I just have to worry about why a Dr. of Physics has problems with signal
> analysis, Gaussians, spikes, etc.

It's probably possible to know how to do the analysis and not have a good feel for what is, and isn't an "interesting" signal. I think that'd be more about the data and less about the technique.

One of the "classic" pages referenced gave a list of the 25 most interesting results, and I suspect that's probably as good an answer as there is at the moment.....
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Message 79496 - Posted: 15 Feb 2005, 2:14:19 UTC - in response to Message 79399.  

> I am not just a random guy - I am Dr. in physics at Cambridge University I was
> merely asking if these results correlated with the average data results and
> what the 'peak' measuremet was based upon.
>
> Any replies would be well recieved
>
As far as I can see, you didn't recieve them well, did you?

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Message 79682 - Posted: 15 Feb 2005, 21:29:45 UTC

I am now writing to apologise fro ay 'venom' my pythonesq tongue has spurted out. I was merely asking not to be spoken to as though i didn't know the difference between a pulsar and a radio signal (and dont start on the likely argument I can see!!)

Thank you all for your replies, however, I am still wondering what is a good (high) score or not.

Dr. B Goodchild

(oh and my students have been known to contact me at 02:30!! so I no longer have any regard for time - it is all relative!! And also, the E.T.s will not stop because it is night time!!)
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Message 79686 - Posted: 15 Feb 2005, 21:55:49 UTC - in response to Message 79682.  


> (oh and my students have been known to contact me at 02:30!! so I no longer
> have any regard for time - it is all relative!! And also, the E.T.s will not
> stop because it is night time!!)

All of my professors have explictly said on the first day of class not to call them at home past 9 or 10 at night. Maybe if you said that at the beginning of your classes you could avoid late night calls!
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Message 79693 - Posted: 15 Feb 2005, 22:04:29 UTC

Science doesn't stop for anyone, Einstein didn't say,

e = (m(c^2))/((SQRT(1-(v^2)/c^2)

only applies before 10 did he?

And Newton's apple doesn't just fall if we watch it does it? Or does it? He he - the joys of the quanta - I expect a deluge on this!! And seriously before we launch into the cat in the box - lets remember to be civilised!!

Regards.

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Message 79702 - Posted: 15 Feb 2005, 22:46:35 UTC - in response to Message 78938.  
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<P>
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<P>

Dr. B Goodchild _ Phd. _ (physics) _ of Cambridge University wrote the following:

==========================================================
> I am not just a random guy - I am Dr. in physics at Cambridge University I was
> merely asking if these results correlated with the average data results and
> what the 'peak' measuremet was based upon.
>
> Any replies would be well recieved
>


> 178.5 - Strongest Peak
> 11.62 - Best Triplet
> 1.19 - Best Pulse
> GAUSSIAN score:0.52 power:4.14 fit:7.98
>
> I'm new and wondered if these were normal results?
>
> Email me at the_maverick@hotmail.co.uk - also can you explain what each means?
> Thankyou!
>
===========================================================


Dear Dr. B Goodchild _ Phd. _ (physics) _ of Cambridge University:



over the the past 2 years , I have sent _ 2 _ e mails to _ Dr. Dan Werthimer

_ to ask science question about Seti

Dr. Dan Werthimer always _ cheerfully _ and _ respectfully _ answered _ my _ e - mails

danw@ssl.berkeley.edu __ is on the front web page of SETI@home __ Classic
<p>
<B>
Dr. Dan Werthimer
Chief Scientist _ of SETI@home.</B>
Dan has been involved in SETI for 20 years.
He has published over 35 papers and books on SETI,
and leads the SERENDIP project.
He designed the SETI@home analysis algorithms
and data collection hardware.
<p>


I hope this information is of some help to you.


Regards ,
byron


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Message 79713 - Posted: 15 Feb 2005, 23:03:10 UTC - in response to Message 79693.  

> Science doesn't stop for anyone, Einstein didn't say,
>
> e = (m(c^2))/((SQRT(1-(v^2)/c^2)
>
> only applies before 10 did he?
>
> And Newton's apple doesn't just fall if we watch it does it? Or does it? He he
> - the joys of the quanta - I expect a deluge on this!! And seriously before we
> launch into the cat in the box - lets remember to be civilised!!
>
> Regards.
>

I'm in a field very much removed from physics: history, to be exact. I'm currently pursuing my doctorate.

As one of my graduate advisors told us: "No matter what historical breakthrough you uncover after pawing through some old archival materials in the middle of the night, you don't need to wake me up at 3am to tell me. It's HISTORY - it's not changing so it can wait until morning!"
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Message 79905 - Posted: 16 Feb 2005, 8:07:37 UTC

Thankyou Mr. Hatch, I am aware of the Dr.'s work and have already contacted him, though thank you for yhe help regardless.

Mr Davis. I often wonder if had one focal point of history waited to do something, perhaps invent penicillin, dynamite, or a million other things. Or perhaps decided not to draw up a battle plan until morning. That pwerhaps, by morning, they would be dead. I prefere not to wait on anything, life is for living - and as once said - there are two types of people, the quick and the dead.

Regards.
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Message 79922 - Posted: 16 Feb 2005, 9:59:29 UTC - in response to Message 79905.  

> Mr Davis. I often wonder if had one focal point of history waited to do
> something, perhaps invent penicillin, dynamite, or a million other things. Or
> perhaps decided not to draw up a battle plan until morning. That pwerhaps, by
> morning, they would be dead. I prefere not to wait on anything, life is for
> living - and as once said - there are two types of people, the quick and the
> dead.

Wow, a Ph.D. candidate in History and a Prof. of Physics, very much removed from my humble Lawyer aspirations,(not to mention the future contribution potential, but I digress)...Some of the best work my friends and I did was at 2 in the morning, after hours spent combing law journals and casebriefs, and we bent the "open-door" policies by actually calling up our professor at 3 in the morning with a question. Granted, it was for an exam only 5 hours away and he understood. Fair warning, there WILL be students like me who WILL call you at weird hours if you give them the "any=time is good time" speech without a caveat.

Back to my case-studying...
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Message 79977 - Posted: 16 Feb 2005, 16:16:08 UTC

I was doing a little reading on the page(s) Siran linked, and they're pretty interesting....

It looks like they aren't looking at the values so much as looking at repeatability....

If a Gaussian fit is a pretty good match (looks like a signal instead of noise) then at some time in the future it will show up on another tape when the telescope visits that part of the sky again.

So a good strong Gaussian is interesting. The same good strong Gaussian observed at three different times is exciting.

From looking at the 25 best candidates (also on the SETI classic pages) .5 isn't a very good fit. The best numbers are around 1.0e-9 and smaller.
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