"Give me work units or give me death."
Patrick Henry, I think.

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Everette Dobbins wrote:
I have 25 computers running this might be interesting. 2years ago I had 4
computers running my average (kWh) used was 1,726 for 1 month. 1year ago I
added 4 more computers my average (kWh) used was 1,987 for 1 month. This year
I have 25 computers running my average through Dec/2004 was for 1 month 3,187
(kWh) a month that comes out to $496.00-$520.00 a month to run seti for me.


Hmm. That seems a bit high. Taking your 4 computer setup and your 25 computer setup, we have a difference of 1,461 kWh for the additional 21 computers, or about 70 kWh per computer per month. So, 25 computers gives 25*70=1750 kWh for your farm (a large one, I might add!). The other 1400 kWh or so is for the rest of your house. Here in Florida, I pay $.09 per kWh; unless electricity is extraordinarily expensive where you are, it should work out to more like $158 per month for your 25 computers. Since you've used your overall electricity cost, that includes additional A/C costs and maybe even reduced heating costs.

70 kWh seems to be about right for each computer--that's about 100 watts, running 24/7. (0.1 kW * 24 hours/day * 30 days/month = 72kWh/month)

By the way, that's pretty amazing to be consuming more power for SETI than the entire rest of your house!

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I would rather have 2000 or 2003 server but out of my price range.
When I'm getting NT 4.0 server/5 cal
and front page what ever that is for $24 shipped so I guess I will have fun setting it up.

Scott

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> > Damn I thought this was out of BETA testing.
> > Maybe I should shut them all down till they get it right
> >
>
> We are not in Beta Testing here!
> Wait Until after Monday to make your decision
> Rom and The team are adding new equipment and have let the
> Units run down to accomidate the new server...
>
>
> TimmY
>
> KZHorse. Easy Chief! Slow down and relax...
>

Since when did we get out of Beta? I haven't heard anything and anyone say that we are not Beta testing, as of today ofcourse .
Are we then GAMMA testing :-D

Regards

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Regards

> I would rather have 2000 or 2003 server but out of my price range.
> When I'm getting NT 4.0 server/5 cal
> and front page what ever that is for $24 shipped so I guess I will have fun
> setting it up.
>
> Scott
>

Unless you're actually using NT 4.0 in a business machine, don't worry about the licenses. MS doesn't even support NT anymore, so why bother with licenses?

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!

> > I would rather have 2000 or 2003 server but out of my price range.
> > When I'm getting NT 4.0 server/5 cal
> > and front page what ever that is for $24 shipped so I guess I will have
> fun
> > setting it up.
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
> Unless you're actually using NT 4.0 in a business machine, don't worry about
> the licenses. MS doesn't even support NT anymore, so why bother with
> licenses?
>

MS might have a problem with then as the guy I'm getting them from had 3 auctions with different packages I think a 10 CAL of workstation and somthing elese and got shut down.
I got the one that I'm getting from "but it now" they were to late,already finished transaction He sais they were never regustered so It should all be good.

Scott

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> Everette Dobbins wrote:
> I have 25 computers running this might be interesting. 2years ago I had 4
> computers running my average (kWh) used was 1,726 for 1 month. 1year ago I
> added 4 more computers my average (kWh) used was 1,987 for 1 month. This
> year
> I have 25 computers running my average through Dec/2004 was for 1 month
> 3,187
> (kWh) a month that comes out to $496.00-$520.00 a month to run seti for me.
>
>
>
> Hmm. That seems a bit high. Taking your 4 computer setup and your 25 computer
> setup, we have a difference of 1,461 kWh for the additional 21 computers, or
> about 70 kWh per computer per month. So, 25 computers gives 25*70=1750 kWh for
> your farm (a large one, I might add!). The other 1400 kWh or so is for the
> rest of your house. Here in Florida, I pay $.09 per kWh; unless electricity is
> extraordinarily expensive where you are, it should work out to more like $158
> per month for your 25 computers. Since you've used your overall electricity
> cost, that includes additional A/C costs and maybe even reduced heating
> costs.
>
> 70 kWh seems to be about right for each computer--that's about 100 watts,
> running 24/7. (0.1 kW * 24 hours/day * 30 days/month = 72kWh/month)
>
> By the way, that's pretty amazing to be consuming more power for SETI than the
> entire rest of your house!
>
>
This includes my total electric bill in my house with the added computers. There is a reduced heating cost no ac yet and today I added another computer so this will be interesting for me to see how it affects my electric bill. But if I should ever have a dispute I will refer them to you since you have all this electrical billing experience.

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> > > I would rather have 2000 or 2003 server but out of my price range.
> > > When I'm getting NT 4.0 server/5 cal
> > > and front page what ever that is for $24 shipped so I guess I will
> have
> > fun
> > > setting it up.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> >
> > Unless you're actually using NT 4.0 in a business machine, don't worry
> about
> > the licenses. MS doesn't even support NT anymore, so why bother with
> > licenses?
> >
>
> MS might have a problem with then as the guy I'm getting them from had 3
> auctions with different packages I think a 10 CAL of workstation and somthing
> elese and got shut down.
> I got the one that I'm getting from "but it now" they were to late,already
> finished transaction He sais they were never regustered so It should all be
> good.
>
> Scott
>

I would assume they shut it down for a different reason, as I can't imagine Microsoft would spend money punishing people for using products that produce no income whatsoever anymore.

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You will be assimilated...bunghole!

> I would assume they shut it down for a different reason, as I can't imagine
> Microsoft would spend money punishing people for using products that produce
> no income whatsoever anymore.

You obviously don't know Microsoft ... Not only would they expect him to pay, but also to pay to upgrade ...

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> This includes my total electric bill in my house with the added computers.
> There is a reduced heating cost no ac yet and today I added another computer
> so this will be interesting for me to see how it affects my electric bill. But
> if I should ever have a dispute I will refer them to you since you have all
> this electrical billing experience.
>

I never claimed to have electrical billing experience--I was simply doing some basic math. If you're paying $500 per month for SETI, that would work out to 500/1750=$0.29 per kWH, which is over 3 times what I pay. I'm not saying that you're NOT paying that, my exact words were "that seems a bit high." With your new computer, your electric bill should go up by about .1*24*30=72 kWh, times whatever you pay per kWh.

Look, I didn't mean to start an argument here, I just thought the math would be interesting. I think your commitment to SETI is admirable.

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Hi Guys,

Just reading through this thread, and I must say, found it VERY amusing!!!

I run about 10 pc's dedicated to SETI (it varies) and have my turnaround set to 1.5 days usually. When the DB slowed, I switched that to 3.5 days.

During the upgrade period, I lost a load of positions in rank, and was getting almost no credit per day, BUT I never once ran out of work... All machines constantly had 2/3 WU's in cache, and they were receiving them at a rate of a couple per day as needed...

Now the guys@berkeley did a great upgrade job, I am now watching my credit increase very quickly... I'm guessing I have circa 5-6k credit heading my way... Over 1k already today...

What I don't get is why so many people are throwing their toys out the pram and complaining??? Don't you guys have patience? What's the big deal??? Taker a chill pill and enjoy the science!!! ;o)))

Nuff said...

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> Hi Guys,
>
> Just reading through this thread, and I must say, found it VERY amusing!!!
>
> I run about 10 pc's dedicated to SETI (it varies) and have my turnaround set
> to 1.5 days usually. When the DB slowed, I switched that to 3.5 days.
>

I did the same thing, but too late. When I upped my cache size, WUs were getting scarce already, so I lost some time.

Regards Hans

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> > This includes my total electric bill in my house with the added
> computers.
> > There is a reduced heating cost no ac yet and today I added another
> computer
> > so this will be interesting for me to see how it affects my electric
> bill. But
> > if I should ever have a dispute I will refer them to you since you have
> all
> > this electrical billing experience.
> >
>
> I never claimed to have electrical billing experience--I was simply doing some
> basic math. If you're paying $500 per month for SETI, that would work out to
> 500/1750=$0.29 per kWH, which is over 3 times what I pay. I'm not saying that
> you're NOT paying that, my exact words were "that seems a bit high." With your
> new computer, your electric bill should go up by about .1*24*30=72 kWh, times
> whatever you pay per kWh.
>
>
So you are saying that everyone is on florida electricty rates and this is what rates are based on the florida electric company. Ok lard ass you took a poke at me. You dont want to argue hmm. Gasoline average price in florida is $1.85 a gallon. So according to you all gasoline sold in the usa is $1.85 based on the florida price. If gas or electricity is paid at any other rate you are a liar and I dont want to start an argument. Ok lard ass then dont.
> Look, I didn't mean to start an argument here, I just thought the math would
> be interesting. I think your commitment to SETI is admirable.
>

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> I did the same thing, but too late. When I upped my cache size, WUs were
> getting scarce already, so I lost some time.
>
> Regards Hans
>

Sorry to hear that Hans! But by the look of the new DB server, I don't think we will have to worry about that again!!! ;o))))

Re. This fuel cost argument... I live in Europe where we pay a helll of a lot more for gas/electricity than you do - so stop whinging will ya!!! ;o))))

Mit freudlich gruessen / A Bientot / Ciao / Cheers,

Nicholas.

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>
> > I did the same thing, but too late. When I upped my cache size, WUs were
> > getting scarce already, so I lost some time.
> >
> > Regards Hans
> >
>
> Sorry to hear that Hans! But by the look of the new DB server, I don't think
> we will have to worry about that again!!! ;o))))
>
> Re. This fuel cost argument... I live in Europe where we pay a helll of a lot
> more for gas/electricity than you do - so stop whinging will ya!!! ;o))))
>
> Mit freudlich gruessen / A Bientot / Ciao / Cheers,
>
> Nicholas.
>
>
>
> OK

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