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Message 78091 - Posted: 10 Feb 2005, 16:07:21 UTC
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Glad you mentioned this one Grube Thereseinstadt "Concentration" camp<br /> What a vacation camp Thereseinstadt camp was!! All the gifted jews were sent there and allowed to paint, listen to and write music etc etc. Classic example of the LIES of "concentration" camps.

Geez, even printed their own money for the camp!



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Message 78156 - Posted: 10 Feb 2005, 21:06:38 UTC

dep,

here are the links you requested.... don't bother responding here, this thread shouldn't be about what you seem intent on discussing.

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/research_topics/captured_german_sound_recordings.html

http://www.holocaust-history.org/himmler-poznan/

It's an audio tape in the National Archives. Contact them and I understand they can supply a copy of it to you.

It's generally accepted that you provide links to any factual information that you care to reinforce with sources... I would think if you're sure about your sources and they can be cross checked for veracity, you would want to provide links to prove your assertions.


As far as no documented orders for killing Jews, maybe you could start with Himmler's documents, then go on to Geobbell's.

I remember reading Mein Kampf... wasn't that written by Hitler?

After Hitler got busted for signing off on documents authorizing the gassing of quite a few non-Jewish German citizens,(1941), it's not illogical that he would be careful not to sign off on any more documents authorizing any more killings. Does that prove he did not?

Since this thread is supposed to be about the oil for food investigations in the UN, maybe you should start a thread that is headed with your particular subject matter? Fill it with your 'facts' and see if you get any responses.

I'd like to get back to the role of who signed off on all these contracts at the UN.
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Message 78177 - Posted: 10 Feb 2005, 22:17:20 UTC
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I can't decide which I find more amusing

1) A foreign sack of s**t who refuses to believe the holocaust happened or

2) A foreign sack of s**t who compares Bush to Hitler, after telling us the stories that make Hitler the most evil man in history, are a lie


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Message 78200 - Posted: 10 Feb 2005, 23:24:06 UTC

I have a copy of a letter written by Himmler to Hitler listing 363,212 Jews murdered in the Nazi occupied Soviet Union between August and November 1942. My problem is I have it saved as JPEG, how do I post it here?
I got the copy from The Institute for Historical Review. Any Help would be appreciated.

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Message 78204 - Posted: 10 Feb 2005, 23:38:37 UTC

Never done it myself, rocky

But if it's an image file I think you can get it hosted and then call up the link to that host.

I've got some pdf files I'd like to figure out how to link, but as they are on my machine I don't think I can.

Hope this helps with your jpg file...
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Message 78208 - Posted: 10 Feb 2005, 23:45:30 UTC - in response to Message 78204.  

> Never done it myself, rocky
>
> But if it's an image file I think you can get it hosted and then call up the
> link to that host.
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> I've got some pdf files I'd like to figure out how to link, but as they are on
> my machine I don't think I can.
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> Hope this helps with your jpg file...
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You can upload to [url=http://www.imageuploads.net/]http://www.imageuploads.net/<a> and then link to it there.
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Message 78209 - Posted: 10 Feb 2005, 23:46:03 UTC - in response to Message 78200.  

> I have a copy of a letter written by Himmler to Hitler listing 363,212 Jews
> murdered in the Nazi occupied Soviet Union between August and November 1942.
> My problem is I have it saved as JPEG, how do I post it here?
> I got the copy from The Institute for Historical Review. Any Help would be
> appreciated.
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> Regards,
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> Rocky
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Email it to me Rocky....

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Message 78223 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 0:14:14 UTC

Thank You Timmy, I appreciate your help.
Thank You Lena,
I have never used a program like that and I appreciate you sharing it with me.As long as I have people like you around, I will never stop learning.

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Message 78241 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 0:42:38 UTC - in response to Message 78223.  

> Thank You Timmy, I appreciate your help.
> Thank You Lena,
> I have never used a program like that and I appreciate you sharing it with
> me.As long as I have people like you around, I will never stop learning.
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> Warm Regards,
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Thank you Rocky! Knowing you makes me sure that good eventually will conquer evil! You are such a fine person! I'd be honoured to help you!
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Message 78275 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 2:21:13 UTC - in response to Message 78034.  
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> Bush hasn't liberated didly squat. Removing the Taliban and Hussain is just a
> way for certain countries to undermine Afghanistan and Iraq in the future.
> Young, fledgling democracies OPEN and RIPE for corruption, bribery etc.
> Taliban and Jussain refused to kiss ass, or be bought. Only reason they were
> removed.
>

What is it with you? Do you stay up at night thinking up all these "conspiracy theories"? Everything you say is
a bunch of dog crap. There isn't a shread of logic to what you imply. No one with an ounce of intelligence is going to believe
your crap. Give it up before you lose the final 1% of you credibility, not that you had any to begin with.


I deleted the rest of your long winded speech about the Jewish people, the holocaust, Hitler, et al. It's not worth
responding to in that it has no impact whatsoever on your assertions that Bush is committing genocide. I could care less
what happened over 50 years ago because it's in the past and there's nothing you nor I nor the guy down the street can do
about it.


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Message 78279 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 2:29:03 UTC - in response to Message 78066.  

> My error in haste. Genocide was the word of 1943. Not '44, my error. Raphael
> Lemkin.(jew) Advisor to the US Department of War during WW2.
>
> And Brainmusher, show me proof of the holocaust, besides simply saying it
> happened. Evidence. Show me links and i'll correct you on the flaws.
>
> Like pictures of bodies. Remember, millions of german civilians were killed.
> Their bodies lay under the rubble until the allies arrived and removed them.
> And the 250,000 Russian soldiers killed in the push for Berlin. Piled up. Best
> pics are pits full of UNcircumcised bodies displayed as Jews. Foreskins on
> Jews? I think not!!
>
> According to historians, any photo involving dead bodies must have been
> showing the holohoax, and are used as such.
>
> Sucks to be played as the fool, but the world has been.
>
> Mr Zimmerman, toss me a link to that particular 'untarnished' and 'unaltered'
> speech please? And which particular points would you like links posted to?
>

And, it sucks to be an omniscient asshole like you! Tell me, oh mighty one, how will I die? ;-)

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Message 78390 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 13:07:22 UTC - in response to Message 78055.  

> Like I said, why argue with a foreign sack of s**t who doesn't know the
> difference between liberation and genocide.
>
> He even denied the holocaust ever happened.
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> He's too f**king stupid to waste time arguing with.
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Message 78394 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 13:18:20 UTC

Brainsmashr, who started the war? They tell you themselves.

<font><font>THE JEWS DECLARE WAR ON GERMANY (1933).</font></font><br />
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<font>&quot;Judea Declares War on Germany!&quot;</font> - Daily Express headline, March 24, 1933.<br />
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<font>&quot;Judea Declares War on Germany! Jews of all the World Unite! Boycott of German Goods! Mass Demonstrations!&quot;</font> - These were all headlines in the Daily Express on March 24, 1933.<br />
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<font>&quot;The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany. Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people.&quot;</font> - Daily Express, March 24, 1933.<br />
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<font>&quot;Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted in this sacred war should do so now and here. It is not sufficient that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must refuse to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-made goods or who patronises German ships or shipping.... we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence depends.&quot;</font> - Samuel Undermeyer, in a Radio Broadcast on WABC, New York, August 6, 1933. Reported in the New York Times, August 7, 1933.<br />
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<font>&quot;Joining with Samuel Untermeyer in calling for a war against Germany, Bernard Baruch, at the same time, was promoting preparations for war against Germany. 'I emphasised that the defeat of Germany and Japan and their elimination from world trade would give Britain a tremendous opportunity to swell her foreign commerce in both volume and profit.'&quot;</font> - Samuel Untermeyer, The Public Years, p.347.<br />
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Samuel Untermeyer was a Jewish leader and close friend of presidents Wilson and Roosevelt.<br />
Bernard Baruch was a presidential adviser to Wilson, Roosevelt and Truman.<br />
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<font>&quot;This declaration called the war against Germany, which was now determined on, a 'holy war'. This war was to be carried out against Germany to its conclusion, to her destruction&quot; (Diese Erklärung nannte den Krieg gegen Deutschland, der nun beschlossen sei, einen heiligen Krieg. Dieser Krieg müsse gegen Deutschland bis zu dessen Ende, bis zu dessen Vernichtung, geführt werden).</font> - Dr. Franz J. Scheidl, Geschichte der Verfemung Deutschlands.<br />
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<font>&quot;War in Europe in 1934 was inevitable.&quot;</font> - H. Morgenthau, Secretary of the U.S. Treasury, Hearst Press, September, 1933 (also quoted in &quot;The Palestine Plot&quot; by B. Jenson, p. 11).<br />
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<font>&quot;For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community, at each conference, in all our syndicates, and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will trigger a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand the complete destruction of Germany. Collectively and individually, the German nation is a threat to us Jews.&quot;</font> - Vladimir Jabotinsky (founder of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934 (also quoted in &quot;Histoire de l'Armée Allemande&quot; by Jacques Benoist-Mechin, Vol. IV, p. 303).<br />
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<font>&quot;Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon.&quot;</font> - Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934 (also quoted in his book &quot;The New Holy Alliance&quot;).<br />
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<font>&quot;We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany.&quot;</font> - David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934 (quoted in &quot;I Testify Against The Jews&quot; by Robert Edward Edmondson, page 188 and &quot;The Jewish War of Survival&quot; by Arnold Leese, page 52).<br />
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<font>&quot;We want to bring about a deep hatred for the Germans, for German soldiers, sailors, and airmen. We must hate until we win.&quot;</font> - Lord Beaverbrook, quoted in Niemals! by Heinrich Goitsch.<br />
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<font>&quot;There is only one power which really counts. The power of political pressure. We Jews are the most powerful people on earth, because we have this power, and we know how to apply it.&quot;</font> - Vladimir Jabotinsky, Jewish Daily Bulletin, July 27, 1935.<br />
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<font>&quot;Before the end of the year, an economic bloc of England, Russia, France and the U.S.A will be formed to bring the German and Italian economic systems to their knees.&quot;</font> - Paul Dreyfus, &quot;La Vie de Tanger&quot; May 15, 1938.<br />
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On the 3rd of June, 1938, the American Hebrew boasted that they had Jews in the foremost positions of influence in Britain, Russia and France, and that these <font>&quot;three sons of Israel will be sending the Nazi dictator to hell.&quot;</font> - Joseph Trimble, the American Hebrew.<br />
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<font>&quot;Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her. One may be sure of this: We will lead that war!&quot;</font> - Bernard Lecache, the president of the &quot;International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism,&quot; in its newspaper &quot;Droit de Vivre&quot; (Right to Life), 9 November, 1938.<br />
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<font>&quot;The war now proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish hegemony throughout the world.&quot;</font> - Brigadier General George Van Horn Mosely, The New York Tribune, March 29, 1939.<br />
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<font>&quot;I wish to confirm in the most explicit manner, the declaration which I and my colleagues made during the last months, and especially in the last week: that the Jews &quot;stand by Great Britain and will fight on the side of the democracies.&quot; Our urgent desire is to give effect to these declarations. We wish to do so in a way entirely consonant with the general scheme of British action, and therefore would place ourselves, in matters big and small, under the co-ordinating direction of His Majesty's Government. The Jewish Agency is ready to enter into immediate arrangements for utilizing Jewish manpower, technical ability, resources, etc.&quot;</font> - Chaim Weizmann, President of the World Jewish Congress, Head of the Jewish Agency and later President of Israel, the London Times, September 5, 1939, and the London Jewish Chronicle, September 8, 1939.<br />
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<font>&quot;The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end.&quot;</font> - Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September 13, 1939.<br />
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<font>&quot;Stop talking about peace conditions! Break Germany in pieces!&quot;</font> - The Daily Herald, No.7426, 9 December, 1939.<br />
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<font>&quot;The Jews, taken collectively, view this war as a holy war.&quot;</font> - The Daily Herald, No.7450, 1939, quoted in &quot;Reichstagsbrand, Aufklärung einer historischen Legende,&quot; by U. Backes, K.H. Janßen, E. Jesse, H. Köhler, H. Mommsen, E Tobias.<br />
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<font>&quot;Even if we Jews are not physically at your side in the trenches, we are morally with you. This war is our war and you fight it with us.&quot;</font> - Schalom Asch, Les Nouvelles Litterairres, February 10, 1940.<br />
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<font>&quot;In losing Germany, Jewry lost a territory from which it exerted power. Therefore it was determined to re-conquer it.&quot;</font> - Louis Marschalko, &quot;The World Conquerors : The Real War Criminals.&quot;<br />
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<font>&quot;The World Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years.&quot;</font> - Rabbi M. Perlzweig (head of the British Section of the World Jewish Congress), Toronto Evening Telegram, February 26, 1940.<br />
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<font>&quot;The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the fundamentals of Judaism.&quot;</font> - Rabbi Felix Mendlesohn, Chicago Sentinel, October 8, 1942.<br />
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<font>&quot;We are not denying and are not afraid to confess that this war is our war and that it is waged for the liberation of Jewry... Stronger than all fronts together is our front, that of Jewry. We are not only giving this war our financial support on which the entire war production is based, we are not only providing our full propaganda power which is the moral energy that keeps this war going. The guarantee of victory is predominantly based on weakening the enemy forces, on destroying them in their own country, within the resistance. And we are the Trojan horses in the enemy's fortress. Thousands of Jews living in Europe constitute the principal factor in the destruction of our enemy. There, our front is a fact and the most valuable aid for victory.&quot;</font> - Chaim Weizmann, President of the World Jewish Congress, Head of the Jewish Agency and later President of Israel, in a Speech on December 3, 1942, in New York.<br />
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<font>&quot;Played golf with Joe Kennedy (U.S. Ambassador to Britain). He says that Chamberlain stated that America and world Jewry forced England into World War II.&quot;</font> - James Forrestal, Secretary of the Navy (later Secretary of Defense), Diary, December 27, 1945 entry.<br />
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<font>&quot;It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America.&quot;</font> - Adolf Hitler, April, 1945.<br />
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The joke doing the rounds of the British Union of Fascists at this time was that the Jewish national anthem was, 'Onward Christian Soldiers.'<br />
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Message 78401 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 13:40:19 UTC



This thread is about oil for food program abuses and the UN investigations of same.

Some of us have an interest in following the thread.


This material you post has no connection to this thread.


Start another thread for your mania, please.
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Message 78454 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 17:39:42 UTC - in response to Message 78394.  
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> Brainsmashr, who started the war? They tell you themselves.
>
> <font><font>THE JEWS DECLARE WAR ON GERMANY (1933).</font></font>


Just because your family tree looks like a 2x4 doesn't mean the rest of us are inbred and stupid.

People who cannot defend themselves, much less wage war, do not declare war....sort of like your nation of convicts, wouldn't you say?
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Message 78470 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 18:57:37 UTC

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Message 78544 - Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 21:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 78394.  
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Mr. Deimos et Phobos,

your nazi propaganda is not wanted in this message boards and in any way totally unacceptable.

You come up with this posts recently and I believe you can go back to a normal level of using this boards and avoid this in the future. Please do it.


Greetings from Bremen/Germany
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Message 78596 - Posted: 12 Feb 2005, 0:09:34 UTC

There is a difference between propaganda and fact.

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