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Message 74339 - Posted: 26 Jan 2005, 20:27:02 UTC

For those biting their nails over what is coming, I did and install of the new upcoming BOINC Manager.

Look in the "Community" page for screen shots of the tabs and menus.

To make you feel better, you can see that it is not that much different than the current BOINC Manager.

To make you feel worse, I died on me, which I did not mind, but it seemed to have corrupted my disk in the process and my "back-up" copy / move restore told me that the move could not take place because the source and destination were the same. I "think" I am Ok, as a deep check disk did not die and a reinstall of 4.1(whatever we are today) seemed to pick up where it left off ...
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Message 74428 - Posted: 27 Jan 2005, 1:39:55 UTC - in response to Message 74339.  

> For those biting their nails over what is coming, I did and install of the new
> upcoming BOINC Manager.
>
> Look in the "Community" page for screen shots of the tabs and menus.
>
> To make you feel better, you can see that it is not that much different than
> the current BOINC Manager.
>
> To make you feel worse, I died on me, which I did not mind, but it seemed to
> have corrupted my disk in the process and my "back-up" copy / move restore
> told me that the move could not take place because the source and destination
> were the same. I "think" I am Ok, as a deep check disk did not die and a
> reinstall of 4.1(whatever we are today) seemed to pick up where it left off
> ...
>

Hmm....I noticed the "select computer" menu option. Does that mean I can use one BOINC manager on my main system, and use it to remotely connect to and administer the BOINC clients on all the other computer on my network?
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Message 74448 - Posted: 27 Jan 2005, 2:38:02 UTC

Thanks, for a peek at what's down the road. I like what I see. Sorry, you had a corruption occur.

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Message 74454 - Posted: 27 Jan 2005, 2:45:56 UTC - in response to Message 74428.  

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> Hmm....I noticed the "select computer" menu option. Does that mean I can use
> one BOINC manager on my main system, and use it to remotely connect to and
> administer the BOINC clients on all the other computer on my network?
>

That's the idea - the stuff required is RPC and is already there - Boincview does this job a treat for me already in a mixed Linux/Windoze environment. 4.6+ is where the BOINC client gets it's own version.

RPC in use is really quite good - there isn't much I can't do to a headless Linux server that I can do to the local Windows client running on this machine.....cool :)
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Message 74466 - Posted: 27 Jan 2005, 3:07:27 UTC - in response to Message 74428.  

> Hmm....I noticed the "select computer" menu option. Does that mean I can use
> one BOINC manager on my main system, and use it to remotely connect to and
> administer the BOINC clients on all the other computer on my network?

Yes, or you can run a copy on your main computer for each computer that you are administering.


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Message 74503 - Posted: 27 Jan 2005, 7:23:39 UTC - in response to Message 74339.  

> To make you feel better, you can see that it is not that much different than
> the current BOINC Manager.

Oh, but it is... the fact that you didn't notice too many differences is a good thing, though. :-)

The GUI is written in an entirely different toolkit and interacts with the running client entirely differently. It may look the same (or similar) on the surface, but under the hood it is entirely a new beast.

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Message 74504 - Posted: 27 Jan 2005, 7:24:11 UTC
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Cant' find the screenshots. Anybody can help?
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Nevermind. Found them.
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Message 74539 - Posted: 27 Jan 2005, 10:37:37 UTC

Oh, lots to reply to ... :)

Yes, like BOINC View, and what John said; you will be able to manage more than one machine from one machine. I imagine that this will improve with time. To be honest, I may use BOINC View as my GUI if it keeps "growing". I am not sure which is going to really do it for me yet. But the goal of having the ability to allow people to have different control programs was an original goal.

Well, I knew the risks. :)

That problem is why I don't do much on the "bleeding" edge any more. I need to not have the issues arising so I can concentrate on working on what I seem to be doing better than anyone else (though I oft times wonder if I am doing as well as I would like - then again my standards are quite high ... )

When BOINC Manager is more stable I am sure I will give it more time. One of the problems of BOINC View is that it is targeted on the Windows side and the windows side only. If I can get the content where I would like, maybe I will take another swing at programming from the Macintosh side of things (though I will need to decide on which language I will use, and it is not likely to be C, or any of its decendents ... Heck I don't like Java that much as it borrowed way too much from C on its language constructs with are far more convoluted than necessary. I once did a program in Ada and there was little need for comments as the code was effectively a sentance ...

if disk_is_ready() then ... 


Any way, the corruption error seems to have been fixed ...




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Message 74904 - Posted: 28 Jan 2005, 11:12:32 UTC - in response to Message 74339.  

> To make you feel worse, I died on me, which I did not mind, but it seemed to
> have corrupted my disk in the process and my "back-up" copy / move restore
> told me that the move could not take place because the source and destination
> were the same. I "think" I am Ok, as a deep check disk did not die and a
> reinstall of 4.1(whatever we are today) seemed to pick up where it left off
> ...

These are things I'm trying to avoid by not running it as an administrator:

>Boinc shouldn't automatically start after installing


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Message 74906 - Posted: 28 Jan 2005, 11:59:04 UTC - in response to Message 74904.  

> These are things I'm trying to avoid by not running it as an administrator:
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> >Boinc shouldn't automatically start after installing


I have to admit that it did look to me like they improved the install process by making it more flexible. Now comes the hard part, making the expanded capabilities work! :)

It is like any other aspect of system development, make the rough outline avaialble, and then refine it so that it does work as intended. This is going to be complicated by the necessity of making it work on three different platforms (4 if you count SPARC/Solaris).

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